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  • Coach McGuirk
    1
    • Nov 2008
    • 12109

    #376
    I just want to shoot myself in the face right now. oh yeah, I can.

    :igiveup::igiveup2:

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    • Jeff Lebowski
      Corporate lackey for Jesus
      • Nov 2008
      • 69529

      #377
      Originally posted by Hsaru View Post
      Take it for what its worth, but SLTRIB twitter is saying they have learned BYU will join BE.

      http://twitter.com/#!/sltrib

      BYU likely will join the Big East Conference as a football-only member — perhaps within a day or two — The Salt Lake Tribune has learned.
      Boo!
      "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
      "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
      "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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      • HuskyFreeNorthwest
        Time to camp
        • Nov 2008
        • 26082

        #378
        Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
        I don't feel so good.
        Why? The road to being the conference champion is much easier in this set up than in the Big 12, being the conf champion gets you at the table. Once you are there you can talk about something bigger.

        This Big East is every bit as good in football as the Big East was 5-6 years ago when WVU was a game away from the BCS title game, and USF was #2 in the country at one point.

        If some basketball scheduling agreements come with it also, this is great for BYU.
        Get confident, stupid
        -landpoke

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        • Blueintheface
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 15382

          #379
          Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
          I just want to shoot myself in the face right now. oh yeah, I can.

          :igiveup::igiveup2:
          Setting up two suicide camera angles. Great camera work. I really feel your pain, over and over.
          "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

          "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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          • Hsaru
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 1109

            #380
            Seriously stop with the negative bullshit in here, Big 12 wasn't happening and this is a big improvement over Indy in scheduling/BCS access/recruiting/season mattering after 1 loss/likely money/basketball OOC scheduling/etc.

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            • HuskyFreeNorthwest
              Time to camp
              • Nov 2008
              • 26082

              #381
              Originally posted by Hsaru View Post
              Seriously stop with the negative bullshit in here, Big 12 wasn't happening and this is a big improvement over Indy in scheduling/BCS access/recruiting/season mattering after 1 loss/likely money/basketball OOC scheduling/etc.
              See look the Big East is already bringing Hsaru and I together, I don't think we have ever agreed on anything before.
              Get confident, stupid
              -landpoke

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              • Jacob
                Junior Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 6801

                #382
                Not excited about this in the slightest.

                I suppose we must have a backup plan. Doubtless the restrictions against leaving the conference i.e. $10m in penalty and 27 month wait, will not apply if the conference loses its automatic BCS bid. I'm guessing both BYU and Boise would have required this.

                BYU must have also got ESPN to agree to something regarding non-conference games and we are confident that we could go back to independence if it all falls apart.

                Still, this pretty much sucks. But, if we only have 8 conference games, and keep broadcast rights to OOC games, this would be superior to independence by a long shot.

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                • Coach McGuirk
                  1
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 12109

                  #383
                  Positves
                  Games in November mean something
                  BCS access for a year or two


                  Negatives

                  Really shitty conference
                  Really shitty teams
                  Really shitty
                  Really
                  Shitty

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                  • Hot Lunch
                    Out of Office
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 7842

                    #384
                    Will the Big East change the name of the conference?
                    "Take it to the Bank"

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                    • Blueintheface
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 15382

                      #385
                      Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                      Why? The road to being the conference champion is much easier in this set up than in the Big 12, being the conf champion gets you at the table. Once you are there you can talk about something bigger.

                      This Big East is every bit as good in football as the Big East was 5-6 years ago when WVU was a game away from the BCS title game, and USF was #2 in the country at one point.

                      If some basketball scheduling agreements come with it also, this is great for BYU.
                      Only a positive if some sort of game commitment is involved. As for an easier road, why would I want to travel clear across the country to play the likes of these teams in football? Why would winning an extremely watered down autoqualifier make me feel any better than finishing .500 in the Big 12? How long until the BCS just changes the qualifications and goes to 4 larger conferences in the BCS? I get we'd take our lumps and win the Big 12 once every 15 years but I just can't get behind this yet.

                      It beats the Hell out of the current abortion taking place in Provo but only marginally.
                      "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                      "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                      • YOhio
                        Hipster Mode
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 26165

                        #386
                        Suck it, Goatnapper'96. You were wrong! So, so wrong!

                        Not thrilled about BEAST, but not pissed either. Slightly better than the MWC and way better than Independence, but not nearly as good as B12.

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                        • Jacob
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6801

                          #387
                          OK. So annual games against the following:

                          Utah
                          AFA
                          Boise State
                          Houston
                          SMU
                          UCF

                          3 Games vs east division

                          continuing series againt ND for the next 6 years or so.
                          Annual game against Texas or the team we are able to replace them with.

                          That leaves us with only one more game to schedule. Will we keep Hawaii on the schedule? Washington State series might as well be cancelled. We got USU in for a 2 for 1, so we might as well keep them to off set the games against ND.

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                          • Viking
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 6470

                            #388
                            Fellas, the B12 doesn't have its shit together. Putting the Big 8 with Texas was a long-term recipe for disaster.

                            This was our best possible outcome in light of the B12 not being able to a make a decision to save its life (literally, this is a case of "if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice").

                            I'm happy. This is very good for our football program. We get to play BSU in what I believe will become much more interesting as a rivalry than Utah, whom we will force to play us in November, if at all. I love playing AF. It will be fun to have BYU football in Texas, in FL and every once in a while, in the Northeast.

                            Plus, we AQ...no excuses at this point.

                            The B12 would be better competition but I doubt OU and UT can ever co-exist over the long-run.

                            Utah game will move to November or it will be dropped, period.

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                            • San Juan Sun
                              Kicked to the curb
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 9214

                              #389
                              Our long national nightmare is over.
                              "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

                              - Ty Cobb

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                              • Omaha 680
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 11173

                                #390
                                I would feel a lot better about this if basketball were coming too.

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