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  • Jarid in Cedar
    CS Institutional Memory
    • Jun 2009
    • 13234

    #1366
    Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
    I can see that, but wouldn't he have been able to figure that out on his own? That the coaches were part of the discussion suggests he might really be able to compete for the starting QB job. Good for him, but kind of scary of the the UofUtah. If he ends up playing significant minutes, I bet he delays his departure for another 45 years.

    Gary Crowton had a similar choice with Ben Olsen. Looks like the UofUtah is learning from that mistake.
    I think it is more complicated than that. The news that Hansen playing this fall comes on the heels of news that Shreve is moving on. That put depth in a crisis for 2012. Second, I think Utah's coaches want to have a longer look at Hansen at qb before he leaves. They need to know what they have with him as a qb to see if they can count on him at that position when he returns, or if they need a qb recruit in 2015.
    "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

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    • Mormon Red Death
      BYU Delenda Est
      • Nov 2008
      • 8077

      #1367
      Originally posted by The Notorious J.I.C. View Post
      I think it is more complicated than that. The news that Hansen playing this fall comes on the heels of news that Shreve is moving on. That put depth in a crisis for 2012. Second, I think Utah's coaches want to have a longer look at Hansen at qb before he leaves. They need to know what they have with him as a qb to see if they can count on him at that position when he returns, or if they need a qb recruit in 2015.
      where are you seeing that shreve is leaving? Is it a rumor or fact?
      "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

      "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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      • Solon
        Lost in the flood
        • Nov 2008
        • 5747

        #1368
        Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
        where are you seeing that shreve is leaving? Is it a rumor or fact?
        St. George Newspaper (The Spectrum) is reporting that Dixie State's soph QB Cody Stevenson is transferring to Utah. He played a lot as a frosh in 2010, but was benched midway through 2011. I don't know a lot about him.



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        • Mormon Red Death
          BYU Delenda Est
          • Nov 2008
          • 8077

          #1369
          Originally posted by Solon View Post
          St. George Newspaper (The Spectrum) is reporting that Dixie State's soph QB Cody Stevenson is transferring to Utah. He played a lot as a frosh in 2010, but was benched midway through 2011. I don't know a lot about him.



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          any idea why he was benched?
          "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

          "And here’s what life comes down to—not how many years you live, but how many of those years are filled with bullshit that doesn’t amount to anything to satisfy the requirements of some dickhead you’ll never get the pleasure of punching in the face." – Adam Carolla

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          • Solon
            Lost in the flood
            • Nov 2008
            • 5747

            #1370
            Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
            any idea why he was benched?
            The article says he's not a great runner, and DSC likes to have a running QB. I don't really follow DSC football. I'm not ready to throw a party for the transfer of a JuCo backup, but I think Stevenson played a Juan Diego. Anyone know anything about him?

            The Utes should've gone after SUU's QB last year - Brad Sorenson, the kid who left the byu when Heaps arrived. He's pretty good.
            "More crazy people to Provo go than to any other town in the state."
            -- Iron County Record. 23 August, 1912. (http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...23/ed-1/seq-4/)

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            • LA Ute
              Receiver of Memory
              • Nov 2008
              • 19512

              #1371
              Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
              That's twice this week you've called me a jerk. I wear it as a badge of honor.
              I said you were sounding like a jerk. Don't get carried away. When I actually call you a jerk, you'll know it and deserve it.

              The rule especially crafted because of BYU may be part of the reason for Chase's plans:

              NCAA adds 'Riley Nelson Rule' to books

              The main point is that this sort of scenario — where a player announces a transfer, mid-mission — is unlikely to occur again. That's because on Aug. 1, the NCAA enacted legislation to keep missionaries from being contacted by colleges while they're on their missions, period. Known to USU fans as the "Riley Nelson Rule," the NCAA is saying, in essence, keep your hands off those missionaries.

              In Bylaw 13.1.1.3.2.1 of the NCAA handbook, it states:In Bylaw 13.1.1.3.2.1 of the NCAA handbook, it states: An institution shall not contact a student-athlete who has begun service on an official church mission without obtaining permission from the institution from which the student-athlete withdrew prior to beginning his or her mission if the student-athlete signed a National Letter of Intent (NLI) and attended the institution (with which he or she signed the NLI) as a full-time student. ... If such a student-athlete has completed his or her official church mission and does not enroll full-time in a collegiate institution within one calendar year of completion of the mission, an institution may contact the student-athlete without obtaining permission from the first institution.

              In short, that means let the missionaries be missionaries.

              And don't even think about sending cookies.
              One thing that will result from Chase Hansen's plans is that he'll fall under the Riley rule. That doesn't stop mission presidents, bishops, family members, friends, missionary companions, or the Spirit from contacting him, but it's something.
              Last edited by LA Ute; 12-02-2011, 09:11 AM.
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              -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


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              • LA Ute
                Receiver of Memory
                • Nov 2008
                • 19512

                #1372
                Originally posted by Solon View Post
                The article says he's not a great runner, and DSC likes to have a running QB. I don't really follow DSC football. I'm not ready to throw a party for the transfer of a JuCo backup, but I think Stevenson played a Juan Diego. Anyone know anything about him?

                The Utes should've gone after SUU's QB last year - Brad Sorenson, the kid who left the byu when Heaps arrived. He's pretty good.
                Cody Stevenson started at DSC as a freshman, then didn't play much this season. *6'6", 205 lbs., played in high school at Juan Diego, where he was all-state in 3A. *Doesn't seem like much to get excited about. He does have a reputation for a good arm. My guess is that the Utah coaches don't ever want to be in the same position again as they were this season, and are welcoming safety net options like Stevenson.
                “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                ― W.H. Auden


                "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                • Jarid in Cedar
                  CS Institutional Memory
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 13234

                  #1373
                  Originally posted by Solon View Post
                  The article says he's not a great runner, and DSC likes to have a running QB. I don't really follow DSC football. I'm not ready to throw a party for the transfer of a JuCo backup, but I think Stevenson played a Juan Diego. Anyone know anything about him?

                  The Utes should've gone after SUU's QB last year - Brad Sorenson, the kid who left the byu when Heaps arrived. He's pretty good.
                  I am guessing that Stevenson would be a preferred walk on. If he takes a scholarship, he would have to sit a year per transfer rules. By not taking compensation, he would be able to play this spring(if he transfers by then).
                  "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

                  "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

                  "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

                  -Rick Majerus

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                  • Portland Ute
                    Junior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 5647

                    #1374
                    Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                    Cody Stevenson started at DSC as a freshman, then didn't play much this season. *6'6", 205 lbs., played in high school at Juan Diego, where he was all-state in 3A. *Doesn't seem like much to get excited about. He does have a reputation for a good arm. My guess is that the Utah coaches don't ever want to be in the same position again as they were this season, and are welcoming safety net options like Stevenson.
                    Seems to me Hays was this season's Stevenson...a safety net.

                    I don't see how this does anything to improve the QB situation. More than anything, it's just insurance that it's no worse than what it is.

                    It would be nice to get to the point of, say, USU, where we have two DI QBs on the roster.

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                    • LA Ute
                      Receiver of Memory
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 19512

                      #1375
                      Originally posted by Portland Ute View Post
                      Seems to me Hays was this season's Stevenson...a safety net.

                      I don't see how this does anything to improve the QB situation. More than anything, it's just insurance that it's no worse than what it is.

                      It would be nice to get to the point of, say, USU, where we have two DI QBs on the roster.
                      Added insurance improves the QB situation, doesn't it?
                      “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                      ― W.H. Auden


                      "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                      -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                      "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                      --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                      • LA Ute
                        Receiver of Memory
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 19512

                        #1376
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                        “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                        ― W.H. Auden


                        "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                        -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                        "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                        --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                        • Coach McGuirk
                          1
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 12109

                          #1377
                          Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
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                          Good for him. Mission is a personal choice and he should do whatever he feels is best for his future.

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                          • UtahDan
                            *
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 14496

                            #1378
                            Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
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                            Will be interesting to see how this unfolds. I predict he never goes, particularly if he gets there, does well, and realizes he could be the starter in 2013.

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                            • Jeff Lebowski
                              Corporate lackey for Jesus
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 69451

                              #1379
                              Originally posted by Coach McGuirk View Post
                              Good for him. Mission is a personal choice and he should do whatever he feels is best for his future.
                              Come on, Coach. When a BYU player opts out of a mission we all rejoice (St. Jimmer!) but when a Utah player opts out we are supposed to mock.
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                              • Blueintheface
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 15382

                                #1380
                                Originally posted by UtahDan View Post
                                Will be interesting to see how this unfolds. I predict he never goes, particularly if he gets there, does well, and realizes he could be the starter in 2013.
                                I'm supposed to mock you then chide you.

                                Consider yourself mocked and chided.

                                (I'm just doing what I'm told despite your status as an ILDUF. Ok I just made that acronym up but it sounds like an Italian version of an Inactive LDS Ute fan).
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