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Rats. Does anyone want my season tickets?“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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I just take this as another positive reinforcement of how dominant our defensive line is since even a defensive lineman cannot stop the defense line.Originally posted by wally View PostI hesitate to do this to PU's already shot nerves, but here goes anyways:
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsut...nsive.html.csp
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If his shoulder was as "fine...fine...fine" as he said it was (in two sentences) yesterday, he'd be throwing. Unless there's something wrong, you certainly don't limit the throws of a kid whoOriginally posted by BoylenOver View PostThey're limiting his throws because he had offseason shoulder surgery.
(1) had a weak second half last year (in both decisions and arm strength),
(2) didn't practice in the spring,
(3) has a new OC,
(4) has a system,
(5) has a mostly new set of WRs
(6) has a new OL
(7) has a new set of RBs.
A QB with all those strikes against him WOULD BE THROWING unless there was a physical reason for him not to be.
Anyone who buys the 'my shoulder is fine' line has his head in the sand. Maybe he's great in the film-room and will pick-up all the nuance of the new system without having to do it on the field. But even in that case, all the unknowns noted above dictate that he'll be better with more reps. He's obviously being held out from throwing for a reason, and it's not because his arm is fine.
Utes results this season->
Montana State - Win.
Every other game - ???
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Originally posted by statman View PostIf his shoulder was as "fine...fine...fine" as he said it was (in two sentences) yesterday, he'd be throwing. Unless there's something wrong, you certainly don't limit the throws of a kid who
(1) had a weak second half last year (in both decisions and arm strength),
(2) didn't practice in the spring,
(3) has a new OC,
(4) has a system,
(5) has a mostly new set of WRs
(6) has a new OL
(7) has a new set of RBs.
A QB with all those strikes against him WOULD BE THROWING unless there was a physical reason for him not to be.
Anyone who buys the 'my shoulder is fine' line has his head in the sand. Maybe he's great in the film-room and will pick-up all the nuance of the new system without having to do it on the field. But even in that case, all the unknowns noted above dictate that he'll be better with more reps. He's obviously being held out from throwing for a reason, and it's not because his arm is fine.
Utes results this season->
Montana State - Win.
Every other game - ???
“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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Wynn scrimmage stats: 9-16, 150 yards, 1 TD 0 INT"The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."
"They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."
"I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."
-Rick Majerus
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Looks like a conspiracy to me.Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View PostWynn scrimmage stats: 9-16, 150 yards, 1 TD 0 INT“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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I'm not adopting Statman's entire post (or his toneOriginally posted by LA Ute View Post
), but some of what he says makes sense to me. Does it make sense to you that his reps would be reduced when he didn't practice in spring and he's got a new system to learn? Must be the shoulder, right?
Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
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Seven incompletions?! He's got a long way to go to catch up with Heaps.Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View PostWynn scrimmage stats: 9-16, 150 yards, 1 TD 0 INTCol. Klink: "Staff officers are so clever."
Gen. Burkhalter: "Klink, I am a staff officer."
Col. Klink: "I didn't mean you sir, you're not clever."
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Only if there is in fact no risk in pushing too hard too fast.Originally posted by falafel View PostI'm not adopting Statman's entire post (or his tone
), but some of what he says makes sense to me. Does it make sense to you that his reps would be reduced when he didn't practice in spring and he's got a new system to learn? Must be the shoulder, right?Col. Klink: "Staff officers are so clever."
Gen. Burkhalter: "Klink, I am a staff officer."
Col. Klink: "I didn't mean you sir, you're not clever."
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Yes. IF he has looked good in the reps he has had, and yes if there is some soreness. Rest now. It is the 5th day of camp. First game is still 3 weeks away.Originally posted by falafel View PostI'm not adopting Statman's entire post (or his tone
), but some of what he says makes sense to me. Does it make sense to you that his reps would be reduced when he didn't practice in spring and he's got a new system to learn? Must be the shoulder, right?"The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."
"They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."
"I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."
-Rick Majerus
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Jordan Wynn reportedly made throws today in the scrimmage that a guy with a bum shoulder could not make.Col. Klink: "Staff officers are so clever."
Gen. Burkhalter: "Klink, I am a staff officer."
Col. Klink: "I didn't mean you sir, you're not clever."
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Originally posted by falafel View PostI'm not adopting Statman's entire post (or his tone
), but some of what he says makes sense to me. Does it make sense to you that his reps would be reduced when he didn't practice in spring and he's got a new system to learn? Must be the shoulder, right?
“There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
― W.H. Auden
"God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
-- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
--Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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