2023 BYU Football:The First Year of The Quorum of the BIG12

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  • Shaka
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 10437

    #361
    MS (edited) is a KWhitt protege. Most coaches learn at the foot of a mentor. I'm not sure him knowing how to run KWhitt's D is a knock against him. Pedigree has some importance in the college football world. I've watched him coach and he knows his stuff. I also can't figure out why BYU fans would hold their nose at an obviously successful and qualified LDS coaching candidate.

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    • smokymountainrain
      Impressive Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 22593

      #362
      Originally posted by Shaka View Post
      JS is a KWhitt protege. Most coaches learn at the foot of a mentor. I'm not sure him knowing how to run KWhitt's D is a knock against him. Pedigree has some importance in the college football world. I've watched him coach and he knows his stuff. I also can't figure out why BYU fans would hold their nose at an obviously successful and qualified LDS coaching candidate.
      are you referring to MS - sorry, JS doesn't ring a bell. but if Scalley, i don't know that anybody is saying he can't coach or that they are holding their noses at him, rather it's skepticism at exactly how good of a coach he is. i'm sure he's a fine football coach. p5 level head football coach? possibly, but color me skeptical coming from that system.
      I'm like LeBron James.
      -mpfunk

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      • Shaka
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 10437

        #363
        Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post

        are you referring to MS - sorry, JS doesn't ring a bell. but if Scalley, i don't know that anybody is saying he can't coach or that they are holding their noses at him, rather it's skepticism at exactly how good of a coach he is. i'm sure he's a fine football coach. p5 level head football coach? possibly, but color me skeptical coming from that system.
        Sorry, Morgan Scalley I edited my post.

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        • BigFatMeanie
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 7094

          #364
          Originally posted by Shaka View Post
          MS (edited) is a KWhitt protege. Most coaches learn at the foot of a mentor. I'm not sure him knowing how to run KWhitt's D is a knock against him. Pedigree has some importance in the college football world. I've watched him coach and he knows his stuff. I also can't figure out why BYU fans would hold their nose at an obviously successful and qualified LDS coaching candidate.
          Because he hates BYU and thinks the athletes, students, and administration are pricks?

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          • Applejack
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 3812

            #365
            Stop it! Byu is not in search of a new head coach! Keep learning and loving.

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            • Maximus
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 6008

              #366
              better get ahead of it

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              • Shaka
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 10437

                #367
                Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post

                Because he hates BYU and thinks the athletes, students, and administration are pricks?
                He apologized.

                I don't think BYU should get rid of Kalani after this season but I think his leash is going to be much shorter in 2024. My only coaching demand is that he has to do something with the offensive line staff and shore up recruiting. If BYU can get a majority of the top LDS candidates and a reasonable amount of non-LDS talent then we will be competitive. We do need coaches who can get the most out of our recruits and walk-ons.

                I have zero problems with those who want to discuss potential Kalani replacements. Of those Scalley is near the top of the list.

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                • Bo Diddley
                  Senior
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 18720

                  #368
                  Originally posted by Shaka View Post

                  He apologized.

                  I don't think BYU should get rid of Kalani after this season but I think his leash is going to be much shorter in 2024. My only coaching demand is that he has to do something with the offensive line staff and shore up recruiting. If BYU can get a majority of the top LDS candidates and a reasonable amount of non-LDS talent then we will be competitive. We do need coaches who can get the most out of our recruits and walk-ons.

                  I have zero problems with those who want to discuss potential Kalani replacements Of those Scalley is near the top of the list.
                  This.

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                  • MartyFunkhouser
                    Disciple of RNGesus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 18717

                    #369
                    Originally posted by Shaka View Post

                    He apologized.

                    I don't think BYU should get rid of Kalani after this season but I think his leash is going to be much shorter in 2024. My only coaching demand is that he has to do something with the offensive line staff and shore up recruiting. If BYU can get a majority of the top LDS candidates and a reasonable amount of non-LDS talent then we will be competitive. We do need coaches who can get the most out of our recruits and walk-ons.

                    I have zero problems with those who want to discuss potential Kalani replacements. Of those Scalley is near the top of the list.
                    Sitake was a great recruiter at Utah. He has been kind of meh as a recruiter at BYU. Maybe, the problem is the university he is selling? Just wondering.
                    As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                    --Kendrick Lamar

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                    • USUC
                      Chronic Poseur
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 8775

                      #370
                      Originally posted by Shaka View Post

                      He apologized.

                      I don't think BYU should get rid of Kalani after this season but I think his leash is going to be much shorter in 2024. My only coaching demand is that he has to do something with the offensive line staff and shore up recruiting. If BYU can get a majority of the top LDS candidates and a reasonable amount of non-LDS talent then we will be competitive. We do need coaches who can get the most out of our recruits and walk-ons.

                      I have zero problems with those who want to discuss potential Kalani replacements. Of those Scalley is near the top of the list.
                      Recruiting is the biggest issue though, Isn't it? As an institution, does BYU have enough support to recruit how you need to today at the admin and BOT level? You buy teams now. Utah is buying all the top LDS and in state recruits. Will BYU be allowed to do that?

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                      • Shaka
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 10437

                        #371
                        Originally posted by MartyFunkhouser View Post

                        Sitake was a great recruiter at Utah. He has been kind of meh as a recruiter at BYU. Maybe, the problem is the university he is selling? Just wondering.
                        That's correct. However, a big part of the problem has been independence and not being in a P5. Both of those issues are fixed and the recruiting playing field, especially for LDS recruits, is a bit more level. The right coach will be able to take advantage.

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                        • Shaka
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 10437

                          #372
                          Originally posted by USUC View Post

                          Recruiting is the biggest issue though, Isn't it? As an institution, does BYU have enough support to recruit how you need to today at the admin and BOT level? You buy teams now. Utah is buying all the top LDS and in state recruits. Will BYU be allowed to do that?
                          BYU absolutely needs a competitive NIL program.

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                          • USUC
                            Chronic Poseur
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 8775

                            #373
                            Originally posted by Shaka View Post

                            BYU absolutely needs a competitive NIL program.
                            But the question remains, will the institution be hostile to an NIL collective that can compete with the uofU collective? Also, is there more wealth among the UofU donors and alumni than BYU's?

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                            • Shaka
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 10437

                              #374
                              Originally posted by USUC View Post

                              But the question remains, will the institution be hostile to an NIL collective that can compete with the uofU collective? Also, is there more wealth among the UofU donors and alumni than BYU's?
                              I have no idea what the plans are to get competitive. I've heard that there is going to be a vehicle program similar to what's going on at the U. BYU needs a better NIL program than the U.

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                              • originalsocal
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 1632

                                #375
                                Originally posted by Shaka View Post

                                He apologized.

                                I don't think BYU should get rid of Kalani after this season but I think his leash is going to be much shorter in 2024. My only coaching demand is that he has to do something with the offensive line staff and shore up recruiting. If BYU can get a majority of the top LDS candidates and a reasonable amount of non-LDS talent then we will be competitive. We do need coaches who can get the most out of our recruits and walk-ons.

                                I have zero problems with those who want to discuss potential Kalani replacements. Of those Scalley is near the top of the list.
                                From what I have been told, both would be accomplished with the ouster of Funk.

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