The PAC12 Celebration Thread

[myboynoah]

I don't want to find out because I wouldn't be going to the game, which would be a serious bummer for me. Perhaps #1 among all sports bummers in my life.

This should be enough for Ute Fans everywhere to insist on no Sunday games. LA, if I were a Ute Fan, I'd have your back.

[Surfah]

People like Football. If there is no NFL the college game will see NFL like ratings.

I think you're wrong. There are football fans that will watch any football because they love the game like you describe. I am very much like that. I love going to high school games, college, NFL, etc. But the NFL is filled with fans of NFL football, and more particular, fans of their NFL team. I know lots of NFL fans that could care less about college football.

[BoylenOver]

College Football would get the same audience as an NFL game would.

I don't believe that to be true.

[BoylenOver]

I think you're wrong. There are football fans that will watch any football because they love the game like you describe. I am very much like that. I love going to high school games, college, NFL, etc. But the NFL is filled with fans of NFL football, and more particular, fans of their NFL team. I know lots of NFL fans that could care less about college football.

Yep. The ratings gap between the nationally-televised CFB games and NFL games is way too big to make me think CFB would enjoy the same success on Sundays.

[Portland Ute]

People like Football. If there is no NFL the college game will see NFL like ratings.

I think the rating would be significantly higher than they would be otherwise, but less than if it was an NFL game.

They would also be higher than games played by NFL scrubs/replacement players.

[Mormon Red Death]

I think you're wrong. There are football fans that will watch any football because they love the game like you describe. I am very much like that. I love going to high school games, college, NFL, etc. But the NFL is filled with fans of NFL football, and more particular, fans of their NFL team. I know lots of NFL fans that could care less about college football.

Sunday Afternoon Football rating averaged 18.1 million

Saturday Afternoon Pac-12 games get around a 5 rating or about 5 million. One could say that is a big difference but consider there are at least 30 other games on 8 different national networks whereas the nfl has at most 11 other games going on and only one other national network broadcasted game.

Put a college football game in the same spot as the NFL except this time there are NO other games to compete. Couldn't they pull in an average sunday afternoon game? especially considering there are NO other games for the rest of the day.

[Portland Ute]

I think you're wrong. There are football fans that will watch any football because they love the game like you describe. I am very much like that. I love going to high school games, college, NFL, etc. But the NFL is filled with fans of NFL football, and more particular, fans of their NFL team. I know lots of NFL fans that could care less about college football.

Conversely, there are a lot of college football fans that don't have a great deal of interest in the NFL.

I am one of those.

I'd tune into a major conference football college game on Sunday but don't generally watch a lot of NFL football.

I still think you'd lose more NFL people than you'd pick up college fans, but I think the ratings would be pretty good. Certainly much, much better than anything else they could find to put in that time slot.

[Surfah]

Conversely, there are a lot of college football fans that don't have a great deal of interest in the NFL.

I am one of those.

I'd tune into a major conference football college game on Sunday but don't generally watch a lot of NFL football.

I still think you'd lose more NFL people than you'd pick up college fans, but I think the ratings would be pretty good. Certainly much, much better than anything else they could find to put in that time slot.

But you wouldn't be adding to the ratings.

[Hot Lunch]

I think you're wrong. There are football fans that will watch any football because they love the game like you describe. I am very much like that. I love going to high school games, college, NFL, etc. But the NFL is filled with fans of NFL football, and more particular, fans of their NFL team. I know lots of NFL fans that could care less about college football.

I have to agree with this post. I pretty much watch all football because I love it. I am personally much more of a college football fan than I am the NFL. I have a couple of friends at work that are die hard NFL fans that don't know anything about what is going on in college football and they don't really care. I have talked to them a few times about the lockout over the past couple of months and they have told me that they are scared they won't have any football to watch this fall. I mentioned there is always college football and they just said that college football doesn't interest them and they won't start watching it just because the NFL isn't there.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

If there is no NFL, major college games on Sunday would get a huge rating. It is great for people to say "I don't care about college, I'm an NFL fan" when there is NFL being played. All of a sudden there is a gaping hole in football it will be filled.

It isn't like the games that will be put on will be Washington State vs. Idaho. It will be Oregon/Stanford, USC/Oregon, USC/Arizona State, Stanford/USC all those games will feature ranked teams, maybe top 10 ranked teams.

If it becomes clear that the NFL is not returning I predict you will see all 5 of the major conferences set up Sunday games. Something along the lines of SEC/ACC/Big10 game taking the early NFL time slot, Pac12/Big12/Big10 game taking the late NFL time slot.

The ratings will be great and owners and players will both realize they better get things together because it was only 20 years ago that college football was much more popular than the NFL, and it can become that way again.

[Eddie]

How much of the NFL ratings is driven by fantasy league stuff?

I know there are football fans who just love football. But I seem to recall reading that the rise of fantasy football has increased ratings for the NFL viewers. People who aren't necessarily fans of one team or another watch as many games as they can because they either have players they want to see perform well or they have opponents with players that they want to see stopped from performing well.


Which ads the question - what do you think would happen if someone figured out how to create some form of functional fantasy football for the college game? With all of the teams, etc., it would certainly be more difficult. But I wonder if leagues could be put together using just the players from a certain conference. Of course - then you could have people who have multiple teams made up from multiple conferences (My SEC fantasy team, my PACXII fantasy team, my Big X fantasy team, etc.)

I'm surprised someone hasn't jumped on that baby already - I could see the SEC putting something together just for their conference, for instance.

[Hot Lunch]

How much of the NFL ratings is driven by fantasy league stuff?

I know there are football fans who just love football. But I seem to recall reading that the rise of fantasy football has increased ratings for the NFL viewers. People who aren't necessarily fans of one team or another watch as many games as they can because they either have players they want to see perform well or they have opponents with players that they want to see stopped from performing well.


Which ads the question - what do you think would happen if someone figured out how to create some form of functional fantasy football for the college game? With all of the teams, etc., it would certainly be more difficult. But I wonder if leagues could be put together using just the players from a certain conference. Of course - then you could have people who have multiple teams made up from multiple conferences (My SEC fantasy team, my PACXII fantasy team, my Big X fantasy team, etc.)

I'm surprised someone hasn't jumped on that baby already - I could see the SEC putting something together just for their conference, for instance.

In my opinion Fantasy Football has helped it a lot.

As for college football fantasy games, they are starting to pop up. It is just a lot harder to follow and rate players but you can find it out there.

http://www.collegefantasyfootballinsider.com/

[Paperback Writer]

If there is no NFL, major college games on Sunday would get a huge rating. It is great for people to say "I don't care about college, I'm an NFL fan" when there is NFL being played. All of a sudden there is a gaping hole in football it will be filled.

It isn't like the games that will be put on will be Washington State vs. Idaho. It will be Oregon/Stanford, USC/Oregon, USC/Arizona State, Stanford/USC all those games will feature ranked teams, maybe top 10 ranked teams.

If it becomes clear that the NFL is not returning I predict you will see all 5 of the major conferences set up Sunday games. Something along the lines of SEC/ACC/Big10 game taking the early NFL time slot, Pac12/Big12/Big10 game taking the late NFL time slot.

The ratings will be great and owners and players will both realize they better get things together because it was only 20 years ago that college football was much more popular than the NFL, and it can become that way again.

I keep trying to become an NFL fan, but at the end of the day, I'm a fan of College football. Perhaps that's due to my local team (Cowboys) being a disappointment. But I've stayed a fan of college football since a teenager. And I wonder with the lockout if fans will return or convert to college football from the NFL. I've always preferred it for many reasons. And once the NFL gets its act together, will those fans return to the NFL? Is there enough pie to split between the NFL and College football? If a Sunday night College game gets huge ratings, will the networks fight to keep select college games televised on a Sunday night going up against a so-so NFL game? It could get interesting.

Personally, I barely have enough time to keep up with my college teams of interest so the NFL is an after thought until the playoffs. But it's possible for this to be a win-win for college football - football fans discovering the greatness of the college football and still tuning into the NFL.

[LA Ute]

I keep trying to become an NFL fan, but at the end of the day, I'm a fan of College football. Perhaps that's due to my local team (Cowboys) being a disappointment. But I've stayed a fan of college football since a teenager. And I wonder with the lockout if fans will return or convert to college football from the NFL. I've always preferred it for many reasons. And once the NFL gets its act together, will those fans return to the NFL? Is there enough pie to split between the NFL and College football? If a Sunday night College game gets huge ratings, will the networks fight to keep select college games televised on a Sunday night going up against a so-so NFL game? It could get interesting.

Personally, I barely have enough time to keep up with my college teams of interest so the NFL is an after thought until the playoffs. But it's possible for this to be a win-win for college football - football fans discovering the greatness of the college football and still tuning into the NFL.

I don't follow the NFL either, but now and then I enjoy watching part of an NFL game, very rarely an entire game. It is fun to watch football played at that level. The speed and athleticism -- and general execution -- are amazing.

That said, everyone here is forgetting the most important aspect of this NFL strike issue: how it will affect ME. If Utah plays USC on Sunday I won't be able to go. Nothing else in this discussion is important. Why can't anyone understand that?

[Borderline Divine]

I don't follow the NFL either, but now and then I enjoy watching part of an NFL game, very rarely an entire game. It is fun to watch football played at that level. The speed and athleticism -- and general execution -- are amazing.

That said, everyone here is forgetting the most important aspect of this NFL strike issue: how it will affect ME. If Utah plays USC on Sunday I won't be able to go. Nothing else in this discussion is important. Why can't anyone understand that?

You've made this point a number of times and it's certainly not lost on me.