The Independent Expansion Groundswell

[cougjunkie]

that's out of line — LA, MRD haven't done anything more than what myboynoah did a few months ago.

Your brother is a big boy he can fight his own battles.

[Solon]

Thanks Sizzle. Took the words right out of my mouth.

Hey guys, can we cool the personal attacks? Coach, I think your post was out of line.

Emotions are running high, I know, but lets all try to hold it together.

This pendulum swings both ways. I refer you to the asshatery that went on earlier this summer: http://www.cougaruteforum.com/showthread.php?t=18919

This is the CougarUte forum. Utes should be able to contribute.

[statman]

So 5 million for local rights, another 4-6 million from ESPN (I know, but enough sources have quoted an ESPN source on this, that the number is certainly ballpark) then 1-2 million in gravy money. Looks like a 8 figure deal to me. Hell that is close to half the money that the MWC is paying out to 9 schools.

Statman's been saying this all along as well - $10+ million. And it's more like 90% of what the MWC pays out to its nine members. Figure that Utah as a MWC member was worth about half the TV $$$ that BYU was, and BYU & Utah as individual schools quickly EXCEED the payout that the MWC was sinding our way. In a nutshell, BYU & Utah were media money makers in the MWC, the rest LOST THE CONFERENCE MONEY. And yeah, I'd lump TCU into that group - they couldn't even sell out their own wee stadium...

The MWC is a really bad place to hang your hat...

[Mormon Red Death]

Your brother is a big boy he can fight his own battles.

I was unaware I was in a battle. What's next pistols at dawn? (not a sexual reference)

[creekster]

Statman's been saying this all along as well - $10+ million. And it's more like 90% of what the MWC pays out to its nine members. Figure that Utah as a MWC member was worth about half the TV $$$ that BYU was, and BYU & Utah as individual schools quickly EXCEED the payout that the MWC was sinding our way. In a nutshell, BYU & Utah were media money makers in the MWC, the rest LOST THE CONFERENCE MONEY. And yeah, I'd lump TCU into that group - they couldn't even sell out their own wee stadium...

The MWC is a really bad place to hang your hat...

Did you really just refer to yourself in the third person?

[Rickomatic]

Hey guys, can we cool the personal attacks? Coach, I think your post was out of line.

Emotions are running high, I know, but lets all try to hold it together.

This pendulum swings both ways. I refer you to the asshatery that went on earlier this summer: http://www.cougaruteforum.com/showthread.php?t=18919

This is the CougarUte forum. Utes should be able to contribute.

And we will continue to wait for that to happen.

[creekster]

I was unaware I was in a battle. What's next pistols at dawn? (not a sexual reference)

Acknowledgment is more than half the battle, my friend. Just admit it, for your own good!

[LA Ute]

Hey guys, can we cool the personal attacks? Coach, I think your post was out of line.

Emotions are running high, I know, but lets all try to hold it together.

This pendulum swings both ways. I refer you to the asshatery that went on earlier this summer: http://www.cougaruteforum.com/showthread.php?t=18919

This is the CougarUte forum. Utes should be able to contribute.

Well, as long as we don't get uppity.

[creekster]

This is the CougarUte forum. Utes should be able to contribute.

But as my dear old Grandfather once said to me, just becasue you CAN doesnt mean you SHOULD.

[Hot Lunch]

Did you really just refer to yourself in the third person?

I was going to ask Statman if he had been listening to old Karl Malone interviews to start doing this. Maybe HFN's mom taught him how to do this.

[LA Ute]

Did you really just refer to yourself in the third person?

Amazing. LA Ute would never do that.

[beefytee]

Statman's been saying this all along as well - $10+ million. And it's more like 90% of what the MWC pays out to its nine members. Figure that Utah as a MWC member was worth about half the TV $$$ that BYU was, and BYU & Utah as individual schools quickly EXCEED the payout that the MWC was sinding our way. In a nutshell, BYU & Utah were media money makers in the MWC, the rest LOST THE CONFERENCE MONEY. And yeah, I'd lump TCU into that group - they couldn't even sell out their own wee stadium...

The MWC is a really bad place to hang your hat...

I've come to the conclusion that Comcast sucks and is a horrible partner interested more in control than on growth. You might be able to group CBS in there as well.

Even though personally I love the game times and the fact that I get the channel, the mtn.'s situation is horrible. There's no reason the conference shouldn't be making its distributors money.

[Goatnapper'96]

Hey guys, can we cool the personal attacks? Coach, I think your post was out of line.

Emotions are running high, I know, but lets all try to hold it together.

This pendulum swings both ways. I refer you to the asshatery that went on earlier this summer: http://www.cougaruteforum.com/showthread.php?t=18919

This is the CougarUte forum. Utes should be able to contribute.

In some ways it seems to me the deep love of national approval is a lot more important to others than it is me. I just want the teams I root for to win the games they play in. I would prefer those games be more relevant, but part of me really wonders if in a decade or two suddenly being loved, and winning 8 games in a really good year, might not be as inspiring as running up the score against WYO.

I can understand emotions getting high about the actuall play on the field, but I just don't buy that the conference affiliation is going to bring to pass such wonderful fruit. I am skeptical either team enjoys the consistent success, or even the pinnacle highs, it has enjoyed.

Saying all that. I agree that Utes are invited to contribute and be the beesknees, if they can!

[LA Ute]

I agree that Utes are invited to contribute and be the beesknees, if they can!

"The Bee's Knees" is a term indicating excellence - the highest quality. Because bees carry pollen back to the hive in sacs on their legs. The allusion is to the concentrated goodness to be found around the bee's knee.

"Concentrated goodness." I think we are there already. A minority here, to be sure; but truly the leaven of the place. Without us this would just be a boring BYU fan board. I know you guys don't want that.

[jay santos]

This is the CougarUte forum. Utes should be able to contribute.

Every time this comes up, I need to remind Lebowski what a mistake it was to give Utes equal ground on this forum.