The Independent Expansion Groundswell

[landpoke]

7? If we have all this money and ESPN gift wrapping games for us why not 8? Or even 9 in some years, Notre Dame has 9 home games this year. Think of all the money BYU will be making from 9 home games!

I bet you top out at 8. There's no getting around the annual treks to Ruston and Moscow.

[YOhio]

I bet you top out at 8. There's no getting around the annual treks to Ruston and Moscow.

Don't do it, HFN. 'Pokes are well-known for welching.

[jay santos]

You keep pounding this drum. I'm curious as to how the serious $$$ will help BYU win more football games (or any sport for that matter). It's not like they'll pay the coaches more. They already have excellent facilities. They've never not recruited a player because it wasn't in the budget. Maybe I'm being naive here, but I see this $$$ play being thrown around as if a fan should care. Just what will the extra money mean for BYU athletics in terms of wins/losses?

An extra $4M on a $25M budget. Tell me I should care.

[Mormon Red Death]

7? If we have all this money and ESPN gift wrapping games for us why not 8? Or even 9 in some years, Notre Dame has 9 home games this year. Think of all the money BYU will be making from 9 home games!

Notre Dame only has 7 home games this year.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Notre Dame only has 7 home games this year.

My apologies, I didn't recognize the * indicating "neutral location" games.

[landpoke]

Don't do it, HFN. 'Pokes are well-known for welching.

Only on drunken bets. Cowboy Code and all that.

[Flystripper]

I was semi on board with this indy idea before FSU and UNR left the WAC. However, what was a poor situation for basketball and our other sports has now become a potential disaster. BYU needs to reconsider this move but I doubt that they will since this is all about the money and there will be a short term windfall in that regard.

Somebody needs to slow this down, take a deep breath and look at this again from 50,000 feet. I think we just got put into checkmate and are yet to realize it. We are going to get a nice appearance fee but bobby fisher just kicked our ass.

[statman]

LOL. At least nobody will ever accuse you of not going with the party line.

Especially when the party line is so rational...

[Mormon Red Death]

My apologies, I didn't recognize the * indicating "neutral location" games.

the neutral location games are in yankee stadium and the new jets/giants stadium

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

Especially when the party line is so rational...

Well of everyone on CUF you and ER seem to think it is rational, everyone else is just crazy.

[statman]

An extra $4M on a $25M budget. Tell me I should care.

You should care. Especially because in total, it's going to be closer to $10 million in TV money vs. the $1.2 they get now. And that doesn't count any bowl money.

[creekster]

Well of everyone on CUF you and ER seem to think it is rational, everyone else is just crazy.

It all depends on what they have going on behind the scenes. IF it turns out that the bYu admin doesn't know anything more than what we are hearing in the media then I will be gravely disappointed and convinced that this was a big screw up. OTOH, my guess is that theat they know a lot more and that the moves with FSU and UNR were not entirely unanticipated and that, like Gary Patterson says, we should just wait a week or two and see what shakes out. Maybe we stay in the MWC with our own TV network. Maybe we are gone with the wind. Maybe something in between. Time will tell.

[Hot Lunch]

The good thing is that BYU will have ESPN behind it on about 4 games a year, and ESPN has the clout to arrange games in a 1-2 year time frame and not the 3-5 years that most teams generally do their OOC games. 1-2 years out it's going to be easier to avoid over-/under-scheduling. And it's really only those 4 ESPN games that are going to matter in determining whether BYU is 'good enough'

Can someone show me where this is more than speculation? Statman you keep saying ESPN is behind this, can you provide a link or something?

[YOhio]

You should care. Especially because in total, it's going to be closer to $10 million in TV money vs. the $1.2 they get now. And that doesn't count any bowl money.

Yeah, Santos. You bitch about this now, but you'll come around all right. When we're enjoying 2-1 series with the likes of Tulsa and Memphis I'm certain you'll be singing a different tune.

[Hot Lunch]

At the very least, it lets you buy opponents that you want. More home games. Fewer 1-for-2 series and more 2-for-1s. I'd expect 7 home games to be the standard for BYU going forward.

Why not 8? Some Ute fans are expecting that.