The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[Surfah]

Opinion piece from Tulsa saying BYU and TCU should be the first choices for the Big 12 to add.

But this line killed me:

I was just about to post that.

We're now down to BYU. Or perhaps "up" is a better word, because the idea of adding the Cougars has a whole lot of up-side to it.

BYU is a "name" school in several sports, and has excellent facilities. The Cougars also started their own network long before The Longhorn Network was a twinkle in Dodds' eye.

[beefytee]

I think this guy has the right idea.

Http://spaffoosports.wordpress.com/2...-for-dan-beebe

The big twelve needs to convince notre dame to come no matter the cost. Let them have NBC. Also get to twelve teams and only play teams in your division. That would leave ND with seven games they can schedule on their own. If other teams want to schedule inter-divisional games they can do that on their own. just do every thing in your power to give ND the flexibility they need.

It is a really long shot, but if you listen to Deloss, it sounds like ND is a possibility.

[falafel]

There is also this to remember: BYU already conforms to the reforms the NCAA proposed at its summit last week.

Numerous observers believe the NCAA's suggested changes were aimed directly at cleaning up the SEC.

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextr...1_NOMATT429034

Does anyone know what these reforms are?

[Mormon Red Death]

I think this guy has the right idea.

Http://spaffoosports.wordpress.com/2...-for-dan-beebe

The big twelve needs to convince notre dame to come no matter the cost. Let them have NBC. Also get to twelve teams and only play teams in your division. That would leave ND with seven games they can schedule on their own. If other teams want to schedule inter-divisional games they can do that on their own. just do every thing in your power to give ND the flexibility they need.

It is a really long shot, but if you listen to Deloss, it sounds like ND is a possibility.

A practical offerring could look something like this:

Domer Division:

Mizzou
Kansas
Kst
Iowst
ND
Houston

Bevo Division:

Okst
Okla
Tex
Ttech
Bayor
byu

The Domer divisions gets a game in houston every other year. Or convince TCU to stay and move Iowast to the Bevo and put TCU in Domer (Removing byu for TCU). That guarantees a game in Texas for Every team in the conference.

[Surfah]

Does anyone know what these reforms are?

Academic requirements.

[DapperDan]

Does anyone know what these reforms are?

Pretty sure it's the APR increase.

It's a significant change from the APR structure now in place. Currently, teams with a four-year APR of 925 or below face penalties like loss of scholarships. Only if a team falls below a 900 and is therefore considered a chronic under-performer will it face "historical penalties" including postseason bans.

Now the NCAA will do away with the 900 cutoff, forcing all teams to raise their academic standards or sit on the sidelines in the postseason. Under the new standards, 12 teams would not have qualified for this year's NCAA tournament, including Ohio State and Syracuse.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...se-apr-cutline

[ERCougar]

A practical offerring could look something like this:

Domer Division:

Mizzou
Kansas
Kst
Iowst
ND
Houston

Bevo Division:

Okst
Okla
Tex
Ttech
Bayor
byu

The Domer divisions gets a game in houston every other year. Or convince TCU to stay and move Iowast to the Bevo and put TCU in Domer (Removing byu for TCU). That guarantees a game in Texas for Every team in the conference.

Um...I choose the other one.

I don't think OU and Texas would like those divisions either.

[Surfah]

Pretty sure it's the APR increase.



http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...se-apr-cutline

Yup.

Here's the teams that wouldn't have qualified this year:

[Blueintheface]

Whenever this thread is bumped I can't help but wonder what Indy's thoughts are on the current state of affairs. He's one of the Cuffers I miss the most despite the fact that he was loath to associate with me.

[falafel]

Academic requirements.

Pretty sure it's the APR increase.



http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...se-apr-cutline

Thanks

[TripletDaddy]

lol! KDog going cryptic on us. Any word from General Aviation on burnt orange planes?

K-dog fails to mention that he saw them at Radio City on Country/western day.

[TripletDaddy]

From a practical perspective, the Domers can't afford to hold out much longer. How many BCS bowls have they played in the past several years? How many has UConn played in? Or Utah, for that matter.

Being in a conference seems to be the easier path for the Irish, even with Notre Dames favorable BCS qualification clause.

[Mormon Red Death]

Um...I choose the other one.

I don't think OU and Texas would like those divisions either.

Why wouldn't ou or texaas like those divisions? Basically they are replacing a&m with byu and nebraska and colorado with notre dame and houston.

Not to mention only 5 conference games so they can schedule 7 other games to make $$. Seems like texas would love that arrangement. They win the red river shootout they basically play ND
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[Paperback Writer]

From a practical perspective, the Domers can't afford to hold out much longer. How many BCS bowls have they played in the past several years? How many has UConn played in? Or Utah, for that matter.

Being in a conference seems to be the easier path for the Irish, even with Notre Dames favorable BCS qualification clause.

I thought that last year before Nebraska joined the Big Ten - Notre Dame needs to be in a conference - more money and an easier path. Apparently, the Irish relish their football independence. The problem with the Big 12 is that if the Irish do join a conference, I think it will be the Big Ten. And Missouri is sure to follow if they are invited.

[KillerDog]

I thought that last year before Nebraska joined the Big Ten - Notre Dame needs to be in a conference - more money and an easier path. Apparently, the Irish relish their football independence. The problem with the Big 12 is that if the Irish do join a conference, I think it will be the Big Ten. And Missouri is sure to follow if they are invited.

I don't believe ND will ever join the Big Ten. The religious bigotry that kept them out in the first place, according to ND administrators, will result in ND never playing in the Big Ten. ND is more likely to join the Big East of the Big XII than the Big Ten, in my opinion. Religious people have long memories for persecution.