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  • Sebastian the Ibis sez: Answer is still No, thanks

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    13-0 causing trouble again

    The program pushing hard to prevent expansion? It rhymes with “Lexus.”
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    • With the four team playoff and Big 12/SEC alliance with the Sugar Bowl (most likely bowl affiliation), a development I see is that the Big 12 has to get back to 12 teams. I don't think the the Big Ten, PAC-12, and SEC who play a CCG will allow the Big 12 to skate into a four-team playoff without playing one (despite the objections of Longhorn, Inc.).

      I don't know what that means for BYU. It's possible that Clemson and FSU defect to the Big 12 but I have my doubts. I agree with others that Notre Dame will never join the ACC. I have always maintained that if Notre Dame joins a conference it would be the Big Ten. However, if the Big 12 got Notre Dame and BYU, Texas would no longer object. And that would be quite the coup for the Big 12:

      My view considering only football/athletics and not academics:
      Notre Dame, TCU, West Virginia, BYU = Nebraska, Texas A&M, Missouri, Colorado

      Maybe this four-team playoff ends up just being a way to force Notre Dame into a conference.
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      • Originally posted by atheistcougar View Post
        Even if BYU football dies, I won't support the UofU.
        Same here.
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        • Originally posted by BYUMizzou View Post
          They are idiotic. I fall in the camp of supporting BYU more than criticizing, but it's still a stupid post. The one in response telling people who are not busy whining to go support SVU is marginally more stupid.
          One of the things I really like here is those of you who fall in that camp, don't go all nuts if someone doesn't. We have a reasonable discussion about our differences of opinion.

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          • Originally posted by Paperback Writer View Post
            I don't think the the Big Ten, PAC-12, and SEC who play a CCG will allow the Big 12 to skate into a four-team playoff without playing one (despite the objections of Longhorn, Inc.).
            Why?

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            • Originally posted by atheistcougar View Post
              Even if BYU football dies, I won't support the UofU.
              Amen and Amen.

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              • CBS is balking at paying the SEC more money for the additions of TAMU and Mizzou.

                That will make everyone rethink the jump to 14.

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                • Originally posted by atheistcougar View Post
                  Even if BYU football dies, I won't support the UofU.
                  I'm not sure why anyone would. There are 118 other teams to choose from and certainly a significantly large amount of those 118 teams are better programs than Utah, so finding a new program wouldn't be particularly difficult.
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                  • Originally posted by venkman View Post
                    Same here.
                    I won't support them like I did BYU, but since I am from Utah, graduated from Utah, their doing well is good for the church, a lot of my very best friends are Utes, I will watch them on TV and hope they win.

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                    • Originally posted by atheistcougar View Post
                      Even if BYU football dies, I won't support the UofU.
                      fair enough but if you live in utah your kids and grandkids will support them.
                      "Be a philosopher. A man can compromise to gain a point. It has become apparent that a man can, within limits, follow his inclinations within the arms of the Church if he does so discreetly." - The Walking Drum

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                      • Don't worry, Uncle Ted. I'm on flight tracker duty this time around.

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                        • Originally posted by Mormon Red Death View Post
                          fair enough but if you live in utah your kids and grandkids will support them.
                          True. I actually feel a bit of remorse for making my granddaughter who lives in Bountiful an avid BYU fan. She won't grow up believing in the strict ways of BYU. Most of her friends will be Utes. All of her family on her mothers side are Utes. By the time she is 16, rooting for BYU will be like folks who root for USU now.

                          I could be wrong of course, but I think I will deprogram her.

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                          • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                            Don't worry, Uncle Ted. I'm on flight tracker duty this time around.

                            Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
                            - Howard Aiken

                            Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
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                            • Originally posted by byu71 View Post
                              True. I actually feel a bit of remorse for making my granddaughter who lives in Bountiful an avid BYU fan. She won't grow up believing in the strict ways of BYU. Most of her friends will be Utes. All of her family on her mothers side are Utes. By the time she is 16, rooting for BYU will be like folks who root for USU now.

                              I could be wrong of course, but I think I will deprogram her.
                              I'm raising one diehard MU fan, and one KU fan that is a KU fan because her sister is an MU fan.
                              Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats.
                              - Howard Aiken

                              Any sufficiently complicated platform contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a functional programming language.
                              - Variation on Greenspun's Tenth Rule

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                              • Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                                Don't worry, Uncle Ted. I'm on flight tracker duty this time around.

                                I will head over to the KSL parking structure parking lot, just in case the Y tent is being set up!
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