The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[myboynoah]

Okay, I'll go with the Tribunes inside BYU sources and you can make up your own explanations.

I'll go with common sense too. I said a month ago in this hread I didnt see why no Sunday play wasn't a deal killer by itself.

But I think 3D's point is that if it was such a deal-killer, why didn't this all die a month ago?

[EuropeanFootballMale]

Okay, I'll go with the Tribunes inside BYU sources and you can make up your own explanations.

I'll go with common sense too. I said a month ago in this hread I didnt see why no Sunday play wasn't a deal killer by itself.

That CULTural thing you do is solid gold. If you mixed in a YBU and maybe an LD$ every once in a while you'd be an unstoppable force.

[Clueless]

So I was right, Viking, 3D, et al. were wrong. It was the CULTure, stupids. Don't ever say I don't know my football.

What's with the CULT thing? Neither novel nor funny. There are a lot of us who don't believe any more that manage to act like adults, particularly around those who do.

http://www.adl.org/PresRele/DiRaB_41/6135_41.htm

What's a 3D?

[Moliere]

What are the chances of BYU fans forcing the issue tothe point that we get Official Declaration 3 which eliminates keeping the sabbath day holy?

[SeattleUte]

But I think 3D's point is that if it was such a deal-killer, why didn't this all die a month ago?

How do know it didn't?

[Uncle Ted]

So I was right, Viking, 3D, et al. were wrong. It was the CULTure, stupids. Don't ever say I don't know my football.

Frank The Tank disagrees with you... His comments on OBs:

The Sunday play issue is a complete red herring. You can take a look at the BYU blogs and message boards about this specific article - absolutely no one believes this [with the exception of a somewhat annoying NorthWestern ute fan]. The BYU alums think their school is trying to pass off a religious reason for the deal not getting done as opposed to a TV/financial reason. Even from a non-BYU perspective (like mine) looking at how this flows, I have a hard time believing that BYU was nixed because ESPN wanted to retain an *option* to play the Big 12 basketball championship game on Sunday even though it hasn't done so since 2008. Besides that, ESPN just signed a TV deal DIRECTLY with BYU and it even raised its rights fees to the WCC specifically BECAUSE BYU was joining that conference for basketball. That doesn't sound like someone that doesn't understand BYU's stances. Maybe Fox had some issues, but someone was clearly spinning things (if not outright lying) about ESPN ever having issues with BYU's Sunday rules.

This paragraph, on the other hand, is closer to the real reason:

"Additionally, BYU ? which left the Mountain West Conference for more national television exposure as a football independent ? apparently wanted assurances from the Big 12 that it would appear on national television a minimum, unspecified, number of times per season. The Cougars also were said to want permission to show their football games not picked up by Big 12 television partners on their own television network, BYUtv, which is available in more than 60 million homes nationwide."

[Marvelous]

Okay, I'll go with the Tribunes inside BYU sources and you can make up your own explanations.

I'll go with common sense too. I said a month ago in this hread I didnt see why no Sunday play wasn't a deal killer by itself.

You are the most obsessed-with-all-things-BYU-Ute-fan I have ever seen. Why so much hate? Time to just move on from whatever it is that made you so bitter towards BYU and the LDS church.

[SeattleUte]

What's with the CULT thing? Neither novel nor funny. There are a lot of us who don't believe any more that manage to act like adults, particularly around those who do.

http://www.adl.org/PresRele/DiRaB_41/6135_41.htm

What's a 3D?

It's just short hand for the well-known reasons the PAC didn't want BYU, handy especially for an iPad keyboard. I meant no offense.

How would you express the concept?

What made you think people act like adults here?

[SeattleUte]

You are the most obsessed-with-all-things-BYU-Ute-fan I have ever seen. Why so much hate? Time to just move on from whatever it is that made you so bitter towards BYU and the LDS church.

I'm just trying to help. You're not I the Big 12, right?

[YOhio]

I'm just trying to help. You're not I the Big 12, right?

But here's the thing, just like my three-year old when he tries to help me mow the lawn, you're not very good at helping.

[SeattleUte]

Frank The Tank disagrees with you... His comments on OBs:

Since when were BYU blogs and message boards evidence?

[lambdacoug]

What's with the CULT thing? Neither novel nor funny. There are a lot of us who don't believe any more that manage to act like adults, particularly around those who do.

The problem is the definition of the term and its associated characteristics are pretty well known. If an organization fits those definitions, it can be accurately referred to by the term in a non childish way.

[Uncle Ted]

Since when were BYU blogs and message boards evidence?

BYU blogs and message boards >>>>>> Utah jounalism

[lambdacoug]

Why so much hate? Time to just move on from whatever it is that made you so bitter towards BYU and the LDS church.

[dabrockster]

HEY. Get back to your notepad emoticons!!!!!