The Big 12 expansion groundswell

[Portland Ute]

...limited only by the amount to which 60% of the active members allow them to take.

60%? Too high...

[Blueintheface]

Things are coming up roses for the Cougars winner of the PAC-12.

FIFY

[byu71]

3. Love of Money is the root of all evil

Maybe, but the love of things money can do for you, buy for you or power it can give you certainly isn't.

Can you imagine where the church would be today if a large number of it's members did not have a high amount of respect for money and what it can do.

[TripletDaddy]

I get the sense that when it comes to revenue, BYU will follow Utah's path and not receive a full share of B12 dough. My reasoning for this is simple: if BYU comes in as a football only school for the first year, why should they receive a full share?

Even SeattleUte agrees that if BYU were to land a full share in Year 1, that would certainly be a rare, impressive achievement. The odds are low and not in BYU's favor, but to out-negotiate a school such as Nebraska, and with one hand tied behind its back (no basketball team) would be amazing.

I'm not getting my hopes up.

[NorthwestUteFan]

60%? Too high...

I was being extremely generous. Isn't the number closer 20% of those on the books? What percent of those on the rolls are active, and what percent pay a full tithing?

[Goatnapper'96]

I was being extremely generous. Isn't the number closer 20% of those on the books? What percent of those on the rolls are active, and what percent pay a full tithing?

Maybee ol Golden knew what he was talking about when he was bitching out the folks in Greybull.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Today we got the grumpy PU. Maybe tomorrow will be better.

There is another version?

[NorthwestUteFan]

I get the sense that when it comes to revenue, BYU will follow Utah's path and not receive a full share of B12 dough. My reasoning for this is simple: if BYU comes in as a football only school for the first year, why should they receive a full share?

Perhaps they can say, 'we will accept a reduced share IF: 1) we maintain ownership of home games per our ESPN contract, and 2) we get equal shares of the gate when we play at Jerryworld'?

[cougjunkie]

Why does anyone care about revenue share? I can see why fans for a state commuter school without many rich alumni would care. But for a private institution backed by a multi-billion dollar entity who gives a rats ass about revenue sharing? In no way will revenue from the Big-12 have any affect on BYUs day to day operations or any sort of improvements. Those things will be done whether we stay independent or go to the Big 12.

[Paperback Writer]

The rumor on Tigerboard is Mizzou is looking at the Big Ten. I thought the Big Ten turned them down last year. It seems Mizzou is may be evaluating all its options before signing a six year commitment.

Edit: and there is this...

Mizzou is having trouble reading the tea leaves, crystal ball, palm lines, weegie board, whatever...
If Missouri had a choice between the Big12, SEC, and Big Ten; it would be the Big Ten and they wouldn't stop to think about it. But the Big Ten may never invite and the SEC possibility is out there right now.

I also think the six-year term is problematic for the Tigers. They would probably be OK with four years since the Notre Dame contract with NBC ends in 2015. Then again, the Irish just might stay independent after 2015.

The Big 12 really needs Missouri. And Missouri probably knows that they will suck more in the SEC then Texas A&M. Now that the consequences for leaving the Big 12 will be severe with the loss of T1 and T2 media rights, Mizzou doesn't know what to do. They would be given serious Big Ten consideration if they joined with Notre Dame but much less without the Irish.

[Blueintheface]

Why does anyone care about revenue share? I can see why fans for a state commuter school without many rich alumni would care. But for a private institution backed by a multi-billion dollar entity who gives a rats ass about revenue sharing? In no way will revenue from the Big-12 have any affect on BYUs day to day operations or any sort of improvements. Those things will be done whether we stay independent or go to the Big 12.

I don't agree. If BYU turns down the invite the brethren will find plenty of other more Christian endeavors to spend their money on, especially when 35,000 non-concession-eating blue hairs show up at LES to watch Ricks College play Idaho St.

[NorthwestUteFan]

Why does anyone care about revenue share? I can see why fans for a state commuter school without many rich alumni would care. But for a private institution backed by a multi-billion dollar entity who gives a rats ass about revenue sharing? In no way will revenue from the Big-12 have any affect on BYUs day to day operations or any sort of improvements. Those things will be done whether we stay independent or go to the Big 12.

Just refuting the line of smack from cougar fans, that is all.

Hasn't the Big 12 shown concern about having a partner school who is backed by 'limitless pockets'? Are they not concerned that such a backing institution can build a $3.5 buh-billion dollar mall and bankroll tuition for ALL of its athletes, plus a slight kick up in the contribution to scholarship athletes?

Maybe not. Tejas just bought $4B worth of gold, so they probably don't care about no steenkin' shopping mall.

[il Padrino Ute]

Why does anyone care about revenue share? I can see why fans for a state commuter school without many rich alumni would care. But for a private institution backed by a multi-billion dollar entity who gives a rats ass about revenue sharing? In no way will revenue from the Big-12 have any affect on BYUs day to day operations or any sort of improvements. Those things will be done whether we stay independent or go to the Big 12.

I actually agree with cj here. Revenue sharing won't be the issue.

The big issue will be Sunday play. BYU won't do it, but will the Big XII exempt BYU from playing all sports on Sunday? BYU was able to have its way in the WAC and MWC, but that was because BYU was the big fish in the small pond. The Big XII is a large pond and BYU isn't the big fish.

[NorthwestUteFan]

I don't agree. If BYU turns down the invite the brethren will find plenty of other more Christian endeavors to spend their money on...

I know it has been stated on these pages that they could deliver water extraction and treatment equipment to all of the starving villages in the world or something like that.

Imagine how impressive that pre-game PSA would be: "BYU. We brought WATER to the world. And we have a great football team. Find out more at www.mormon.org..."

[Uncle Ted]

Anyone that is worried about BYU rejecting an offer needs to remember two things.

1. The Big 12 would mean a lot more money.
2. BYU and the church loves money.

3. Love of Money is the root of all evil

If BYU isn't in love with money then why did they:

(1) Require cougar fans to buy tickets to two other games to get tickets to the Utah game?

(2) Sell $85 tickets to the Texas game for $95 each (plus other shipping/handling fees)?

(3) Sell $55 tickets to the TCU game for $60 each (plus other shipping/handling fees)? Also, there is apparently a $5 "ticket fee" added to each Hawaii game ticket also.

(4) Assume that BYU fans won't love money too and start looking for options for buying their tickets elsewhere like directly them from the home team for the road games?

Now if BYU is getting all the money it needs as an independent from its fat ESPN contract then why is BYU adding all these additional fees and making folks buy tickets they don't want? It seems to me that BYU athletics loves money.