The Big 12 expansion groundswell

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  • Blueintheface
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 15382

    #5161
    This is turning into an absolute joke.
    "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

    "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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    • Babs
      Not a Lawyer
      • Nov 2008
      • 17128

      #5162
      SEC is putting A&M on the sked.

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      • Uncle Ted
        The Big 12 money shot.
        • Apr 2010
        • 28853

        #5163
        Originally posted by Babs View Post
        Oklahoma is ranked ahead of Utah academically, and has considerably more to offer athletically, so I don't see why not.
        But according to LA Ute (or was it SU?) Utah will be a member of the AAU any day now.
        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • YOhio
          Hipster Mode
          • Nov 2008
          • 26165

          #5164
          Originally posted by Babs View Post
          Babs, what do you think of all this? As a lifelong Sooner who grew up in the SWC days, it's got to be pretty weird to think of your school completely uprooting and moving to the coast.

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          • Portland Ute
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 5647

            #5165
            I suppose I'm curious to see what happens to the PAC12.

            Will it go to 16 or just 14?

            If they stay at 14, do they split up OSU and OU putting one into the north and one into the South?

            Do they completely retool the divisions?

            Will the PAC8 rise again?

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            • Uncle Ted
              The Big 12 money shot.
              • Apr 2010
              • 28853

              #5166
              This all sounds like it is all dependent on what Texas does. It seems the Pac-12 will take the Okies only if Texas comes along as part of the package. Texas, on the other hand (if the stuff PBC is saying is true), is more interested in the B1G with its buddy ND rather than playing in three different time zones in the Pac.
              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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              • Babs
                Not a Lawyer
                • Nov 2008
                • 17128

                #5167
                Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                This all sounds like it is all dependent on what Texas does. It seems the Pac-12 will take the Okies only if Texas comes along as part of the package. Texas, on the other hand (if the stuff PBC is saying is true), is more interested in the B1G with its buddy ND rather than playing in three different time zones in the Pac.
                The Pac-12 Commish said if any of the other conferences expanded past 12, they would find a way to follow suit. I imagine that he had already made this clear to Oklahoma, and that Oklahoma knew the A&M move was becoming official today, and that's why Oklahoma made the application announcement.

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                • Babs
                  Not a Lawyer
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 17128

                  #5168
                  Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                  Babs, what do you think of all this? As a lifelong Sooner who grew up in the SWC days, it's got to be pretty weird to think of your school completely uprooting and moving to the coast.
                  SWC? Oklahoma was in the Big 8, which makes it that much weirder that they'd head to the Pac. I think it's all very silly and I'm pretty skeptical.

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                  • Blueintheface
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 15382

                    #5169
                    Originally posted by Babs View Post
                    The Pac-12 Commish said if any of the other conferences expanded past 12, they would find a way to follow suit. I imagine that he had already made this clear to Oklahoma, and that Oklahoma knew the A&M move was becoming official today, and that's why Oklahoma made the application announcement.
                    Ding ding ding. Which is why this announcement by the board of regents doesn't move me at all.
                    "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                    "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                    • myboynoah
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 21719

                      #5170
                      Originally posted by Babs View Post
                      SWC? Oklahoma was in the Big 8, which makes it that much weirder that they'd head to the Pac. I think it's all very silly and I'm pretty skeptical.
                      As is Pete Thamel.

                      Texas Tries to Persuade Sooners to Stay

                      Oklahoma’s president, David Boren, has made it clear that Oklahoma would explore joining the Pac-12 with Oklahoma State. But there is growing sentiment in Pac-12 circles that it would be difficult to accept the Oklahoma universities, and accepting them without Texas would be a long shot.

                      Academically, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State lag far behind top Pac-12 universities like Stanford, California, U.C.L.A., U.S.C. and Washington. Last year, when the Pac-12 presidents were discussing expansion, they took a sour attitude toward Oklahoma and Oklahoma State, which were viewed as a necessary evil for Texas’ potential admission.
                      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                      • YOhio
                        Hipster Mode
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 26165

                        #5171
                        Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                        Don't worry, Babs. Those schools don't like us either.

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                        • Jeff Lebowski
                          Corporate lackey for Jesus
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 69422

                          #5172
                          You know, if the stakes weren't so high for BYU, I would be enjoying this immensely. Talk about high drama.
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                          • Blueintheface
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 15382

                            #5173
                            Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
                            Thamel was just on VS discussing his article. Reiterated most of the same but called OU and OKSU the anti-Ivy League. Thought that was funny.
                            "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                            "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                            • Uncle Ted
                              The Big 12 money shot.
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 28853

                              #5174
                              Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                              Don't worry, Babs. Those schools don't like us either.
                              Why would OU want to join the Pac anyway? Maybe they forgot what happened back in 2006 when they played Oregon...

                              [ame="http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2593369"]OU president wants game voided, officials suspended - College Football - ESPN[/ame]

                              Not to mention what happened last Saturday when to took their refs two hours to figure out they forgot to add USC's touchdown.
                              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                              • myboynoah
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 21719

                                #5175
                                Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                                You know, if the stakes weren't so high for BYU, I would be enjoying this immensely. Talk about high drama.
                                I feel the same way to an extent, but I think YO said it best earlier:

                                Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                                After all the B12 drama of the past 18 months this really doesn't bother me that much. Sure it would suck if BYU were left out, but in that's the position they've been in my whole life and I've still managed to become obsessed with the program. I also think the era of superconferences will be short lived. Most fans hate the idea, it doesn't make sense logistically and the interconference feuding will continue. BYU will be fine.
                                I'd much rather that BYU be in a BCS conference. Who wouldn't? Obviously our options are limited and the Big-12 offers the best possibility. Too bad it's populated by a bunch of crazies (except for Kansas, of course; oh, and BatGirl as well).

                                In the end I think BYU will still be okay.

                                I just don't see how OK and OKSU Fans would want their teams to play most road games 1 to 2 time zones away. The Big-12 allows ready access to all venues. Makes no sense to me.
                                Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                                For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                                Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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