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  • Donuthole
    Official Outgayer
    • Nov 2008
    • 25211

    #19546
    Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
    I fully expect the jazz will sign a Neto/TJ McConnell/Dellavadova type guy without much difficulty.
    And there it is. Mudiay to Utah.
    Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

    There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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    • Color Me Badd Fan
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 12519

      #19547
      Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
      Jazz add Jeff Green on a 1-year, 2.5 M contract. He's certainly not a spring chicken, but that's a nice way to fill a roster spot; a veteran big who can shoot the 3 just as well as Crowder could.
      That's a great signing.
      Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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      • myboynoah
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 21719

        #19548
        Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
        And there it is. Mudiay to Utah.
        Shwish!
        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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        • smokymountainrain
          Impressive Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 22593

          #19549
          Originally posted by Commando View Post
          Cool. But we're still woefully shorthanded at PG.




          https://www.deseretnews.com/article/...ley-trade.html
          ...and mudiay.
          I'm like LeBron James.
          -mpfunk

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          • smokymountainrain
            Impressive Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 22593

            #19550
            Mudiay is very interesting. Only 23 years old, he is big and is a good athlete - let's hope an improving shooter. to get him like this is a pretty big deal.

            Last year, he had 3 30+ point games - that is more than anybody on the Jazz not named Donovan Mitchell. He had about 15 (iirc) 20+ point games - which i would guess is more than anybody not named Donovan Mitchell - maybe Rudy. He averaged 17.5 ppg in the months of December and January. sure, he's putting up those numbers on a bad team, but he's still playing against NBA competition. and again, he is only 23.

            but as is nearly always the case, there is a reason they were able to get him at this stage of the game - he put up those scoring numbers last year on 45% FGs and 33% 3pt. that is decent. But prior to this past year - you look at his shooting numbers and they are off the charts bad - 36%, 38%, and 38% in his prior 3 seasons.

            optimistically, he was very young during those three seasons as he came into the league at 19 - maybe rather than an aberration, this year's 45% shooting is legitimately from improvement. let's hope that is the case. I wish the jazz could have worked a second year team option into that deal because he is a very promising young player as a big guard.
            I'm like LeBron James.
            -mpfunk

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            • Sizzle
              #ThisIsY
              • Nov 2008
              • 9004

              #19551
              Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
              Mudiay is very interesting. Only 23 years old, he is big and is a good athlete - let's hope an improving shooter. to get him like this is a pretty big deal.

              Last year, he had 3 30+ point games - that is more than anybody on the Jazz not named Donovan Mitchell. He had about 15 (iirc) 20+ point games - which i would guess is more than anybody not named Donovan Mitchell - maybe Rudy. He averaged 17.5 ppg in the months of December and January. sure, he's putting up those numbers on a bad team, but he's still playing against NBA competition. and again, he is only 23.

              but as is nearly always the case, there is a reason they were able to get him at this stage of the game - he put up those scoring numbers last year on 45% FGs and 33% 3pt. that is decent. But prior to this past year - you look at his shooting numbers and they are off the charts bad - 36%, 38%, and 38% in his prior 3 seasons.

              optimistically, he was very young during those three seasons as he came into the league at 19 - maybe rather than an aberration, this year's 45% shooting is legitimately from improvement. let's hope that is the case. I wish the jazz could have worked a second year team option into that deal because he is a very promising young player as a big guard.
              How many years do you need to have been with a team to earn bird rights? Is it three years?

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              • Sizzle
                #ThisIsY
                • Nov 2008
                • 9004

                #19552
                Originally posted by Sizzle View Post
                How many years do you need to have been with a team to earn bird rights? Is it three years?
                I won't be lazy

                the Larry Bird exception allows teams to exceed the salary cap to re-sign their own free agents, at an amount up to the maximum salary. To qualify as a Bird free agent, a player must have played three seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent.
                See also:

                Free agents who qualify for this exception are called "early qualifying veteran free agents", and qualify after playing two seasons with the same team. Players that are traded or claimed off waivers have their Bird rights transferred to their new team. Prior to an arbitrator ruling in June 2012, all players that were waived and changed teams lost their Bird rights.[26][27] Using this exception, a team can re-sign its own free agent for either 175% of his salary the previous season, or the NBA's average salary, whichever is greater. Early Bird contracts must be for at least two seasons, but can last no longer than four seasons.

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                • creekster
                  It is NOT a monkey!
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 22661

                  #19553
                  A number of reports on twitter say Mudiay's camp WANTED him to sign with Utah because of the excellent player development program. ANd Jeff Green's people suggest he is in Utah because he is ring hunting.

                  As a long time Jazz fan it is hard to believe these things. A young FA wanting to play in Utah? A veteran FA who is ring hunting signs with the Jazz? This all seems too good to be true. BUt I really like the look of this roster (although I will miss Favors).
                  PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                  • Moliere
                    One man.....one pie
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 27756

                    #19554
                    I’m it a Jazz fan, but I really like their team (it helps that they have a frog). I would find it funny if they win a title next year after not winning anything with Stockton and Malone. I also hope they pick up Jimmer, even if he only sits on the far end of the bench. Jimmer with a ring and Andre Miller without one would be the perfect situation.
                    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                    • smokymountainrain
                      Impressive Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 22593

                      #19555
                      kinda crazy - after conley, bb and davis, we were talking about a strong starting lineup with a fairly legit big 4, but the bench was weak. adding green and mudiay and likely adding a shooter, the bench could be as strong as the jazz have ever had.
                      I'm like LeBron James.
                      -mpfunk

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                      • Commando
                        Explosivo
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 20748

                        #19556
                        Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                        And there it is. Mudiay to Utah.
                        Now THAT's a backup PG. Sheesh.
                        "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                        • smokymountainrain
                          Impressive Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 22593

                          #19557
                          and there's this badass mfer

                          I'm like LeBron James.
                          -mpfunk

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                          • Commando
                            Explosivo
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 20748

                            #19558
                            Good good- for at least one of these picks to work out would be such a windfall...
                            "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                            • smokymountainrain
                              Impressive Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 22593

                              #19559
                              Originally posted by Commando View Post
                              Good good- for at least one of these picks to work out would be such a windfall...
                              He'll be lucky to make the team, but i think the potential is there.
                              I'm like LeBron James.
                              -mpfunk

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                              • CJF
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 8497

                                #19560
                                Originally posted by smokymountainrain View Post
                                He'll be lucky to make the team, but i think the potential is there.
                                I bet two of the three picks make the team. Brantley looks like he could develop into a rotational player down the line. Oni has not looked like an NBA player at all in my limited viewing and opinion.
                                A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. - Mohammad Ali

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