"You Gotta Love It Baby" Official Jazz thread

[BGRTHNUMEGO]

GS has to get a win or 2 or we are doomed. I just don't see it happening. They have very few NBA players on the floor, and they aren't playing anyone who has any reason to tank. Their best shot may be their last shot of the season against SA. But they just lost to the faux SA team by 30.

And I don't think the pick will be as good next year. If healthy, they'll have a solid and balanced base for that team with Bogut, Lee, Wright, Thompson, and Curry. Throw in someone like Harrison Barnes or Thomas Robinson and I think we'll be receiving a pick near 10 or 12 next year.

Maybe Bogut and Curry will break down again.

[Jacob]

And I don't think the pick will be as good next year. If healthy, they'll have a solid and balanced base for that team with Bogut, Lee, Wright, Thompson, and Curry. Throw in someone like Harrison Barnes or Thomas Robinson and I think we'll be receiving a pick near 10 or 12 next year.

Maybe Bogut and Curry will break down again.

Did you mean you DON'T think the pick will be between 10 and 12? Because that GS team could be pretty decent and make the playoffs next year with that healthy lineup.

Let me explain: Bogut and Lee is a superior lineup to Millsap and Jefferson. Curry is much better than Harris. Thompson looks pretty good and they have some nice 3 point shooters. That team is better than the Jazz this year.

[MarkGrace]

GS has to get a win or 2 or we are doomed. I just don't see it happening. They have very few NBA players on the floor, and they aren't playing anyone who has any reason to tank. Their best shot may be their last shot of the season against SA. But they just lost to the faux SA team by 30.

They're going to win at Minny and then at home versus New Orleans. I'm putting my money down!

If they finish at 7, what are the odds that a team 8-14 jumps into the top 3? I'm sure Hollinger has this calculated somewhere.

[BGRTHNUMEGO]

Did you mean you DON'T think the pick will be between 10 and 12? Because that GS team could be pretty decent and make the playoffs next year with that healthy lineup.

Let me explain: Bogut and Lee is a superior lineup to Millsap and Jefferson. Curry is much better than Harris. Thompson looks pretty good and they have some nice 3 point shooters. That team is better than the Jazz this year.

I think that team could make the playoffs, but I don't think they will. But they'll be good enough that a late lottery pick is about the best we can hope for barring significant injuries on their end. GS will improve more than most of the non-playoff teams in the west, but I think they'll have a tough time jumping all the way in unless they nail it in the draft.

[BGRTHNUMEGO]

If the Jazz end up keeping their own pick and stay at 13 or 14 after the lottery, I wonder if they'll be on the phone with Sacramento about sending that pick over for Jimmer. I would guess that teams that reportedly liked Jimmer last year could make offers to see if they could get him cheaply from Sacramento now that they changed coaches and have Thomas starting at PG.

[SloanHater]

At best there is 4% chance that the number 8 pick moves to the 3rd pick. Number 9 has a 2% chance at the 3rd pick and everyone lower has a less than 1% chance to move to the top 3.

I'm still not sold on the Jazz tanking to keep their lottery pick. There isn't a starting NBA PG in this draft. A few backup PGs at best. Even if the Jazz lose their pick to Minny, I bet they could find their way back into the end of the first round to grab Teague.

[Maximus]

At best there is 4% chance that the number 8 pick moves to the 3rd pick. Number 9 has a 2% chance at the 3rd pick and everyone lower has a less than 1% chance to move to the top 3.

I'm still not sold on the Jazz tanking to keep their lottery pick. There isn't a starting NBA PG in this draft. A few backup PGs at best. Even if the Jazz lose their pick to Minny, I bet they could find their way back into the end of the first round to grab Teague.

http://www.mynbadraft.com/nba-draft-lottery-odds

[Jacob]

http://www.mynbadraft.com/nba-draft-lottery-odds

IOW, Hater is bad at math, and the team who is slated 7th in the lottery has a 25% chance of slipping to 8 or lower in the draft.

Also, if the Warriors don't win another game, they are 6th worst record. Tied for 7th is looking like best case scenario for Jazz fans.

[Blueintheface]

IOW, Hater is bad at math, and the team who is slated 7th in the lottery has a 25% chance of slipping to 8 or lower in the draft.

Math isn't the issue, he's just terrible at interpersonal communications. Yes, I'm as funny as I think I am, SH.

[Blueintheface]

I don't fault the players or Corbin. These kind of decisions have to be made earlier by KOC.

I have to wonder though if the league takes action at some point, seeing teams starting 5 d-leaguers at season's end in order to preserve draft picks. I have no idea what that would entail or if it's even possible and certainly the league is aware of it but it sucks to be on the wrong side of it. That's the risk you take when making trades involving picks protected or otherwise I guess.

[Jacob]

I have to wonder though if the league takes action at some point, seeing teams starting 5 d-leaguers at season's end in order to preserve draft picks. I have no idea what that would entail or if it's even possible and certainly the league is aware of it but it sucks to be on the wrong side of it. That's the risk you take when making trades involving picks protected or otherwise I guess.

I don't think it's that bad. I think the Warriors are the only team tanking right now. NJ isn't because they don't own their pick, same goes for Minny. Portland doesn't have much reason to tank because they can only move up one spot, at best. For GS, it makes too much sense for them not to tank, since they don't get their pick unless they do.

[MarkGrace]

IOW, Hater is bad at math, and the team who is slated 7th in the lottery has a 25% chance of slipping to 8 or lower in the draft.

Also, if the Warriors don't win another game, they are 6th worst record. Tied for 7th is looking like best case scenario for Jazz fans.

If they tie for 7th I like our chances. The coin flip's gotta go our way sooner or later, right?

[Jacob]

If they tie for 7th I like our chances. The coin flip's gotta go our way sooner or later, right?

Problem is, they've gotta win at least one to be tied for 7th. How do they do a coin flip on a 3 way tie for 6th?
Damn coin flip.

[BGRTHNUMEGO]

I know I've posted it here before, but every time I look at the lottery standings I am completely baffled by NJ's trade with Portland, and even more so that NJ kept trying to win games after making that trade. No clue what they possibly could've been thinking making that trade w/so little protection on that pick.

[Maximus]

I know I've posted it here before, but every time I look at the lottery standings I am completely baffled by NJ's trade with Portland, and even more so that NJ kept trying to win games after making that trade. No clue what they possibly could've been thinking making that trade w/so little protection on that pick.

They thought they would be a contender with Gerald Wallace.