"You Gotta Love It Baby" Official Jazz thread

[Jacob]

This thread is much less active than last year. I can't believe that B12 expansion thread continues to get so many posts.

[HuskyFreeNorthwest]

This thread is much less active than last year. I can't believe that B12 expansion thread continues to get so many posts.

I think it is because there are so many games every week. I have tried to watch part of every game through January, it starts to seem like there is a game every night. I am enjoying the way the Jazz are playing and commenting on games/rumors/etc, it just feels like overload to me.

[smokymountainrain]

I think it is because there are so many games every week. I have tried to watch part of every game through January, it starts to seem like there is a game every night. I am enjoying the way the Jazz are playing and commenting on games/rumors/etc, it just feels like overload to me.

And last year at this time Sloan was quitting and Williams was being traded in one of the biggest trades in Jazz history. I am much more interested in this year's team.

[MarkGrace]

That Utah radio personalities think it is a crime that Dirk freaking Nowitzki made the all star team ahead of Paul Millsap speaks volumes.

It's a shame that there are not enough spots on the all-star team for all good power forwards. I'd would be a nice ego boost for Paul if he made it. But over Dirk? So what if Dirk has had several bad games in this crazy season so far? We are not talking about a guy who didn't play or who is years past his prime. We are talking about the finals MVP. A finalist for league MVP last year. I don't think the all-star voting should be based solely on who has the highest PER through 25 games this year.

Question for random Utah sports personality: Everything else equal, would you trade Millsap for Dirk if you only got either of them for a single year and your object was to win as many games as possible? If you wouldn't. Just shut up. Nobody cares what you think.

I disagree with most of these points. I think it's a crock when guys get in the game based on reputation or past accomplishments, though obviously it happens often. I agree with Dirk himself -- he is not an AS this year. :condom:

[Jacob]

I disagree with most of these points. I think it's a crock when guys get in the game based on reputation or past accomplishments, though obviously it happens often. I agree with Dirk himself -- he is not an AS this year. :condom:

But would you rather have Dirk or Paul for the rest of this year only if you were trying to win more games?

[MarkGrace]

But would you rather have Dirk or Paul for the rest of this year only if you were trying to win more games?

Dirk. But that doesn't really have much to do with an AS selection.

[Blueintheface]

And last year at this time Sloan was quitting and Williams was being traded in one of the biggest trades in Jazz history. I am much more interested in this year's team.

One year exactly. Somewhere Sloanhater is lighting a fatty.

[Jacob]

Dirk. But that doesn't really have much to do with an AS selection.

It depends on how you think an AS should be selected. If AS are simply chosen based on their stats and contributions for the first part of the season (we are only dealing with 1/4 of a full season here), then maybe Dirk shouldn't be an all star. If you are selecting the best players at the position, Dirk should be selected.

I would agree that people shouldn't make it on past reputation. Others in the past have made it with no justifiable reason. But you apparently admit that Dirk is still better than Paul. That's a pretty good reason to put him on the AS team ahead of Paul. At least, IMHO. Usually I'd be agreeing with you about the general principal.

I also dislike the argument that X team has a great record, therefore they ought to have X (usually 2 or more) players on the AS team. Sometimes a team is good because they have a whole team, not because they have 2 or 3 all-stars (I'm looking at you Loul Deng, Roy Hibbert). Or maybe that is just proof that the east still stinks. Roy Hibbert and AS and Andrew Bynum not?

[MarkGrace]

If AS are simply chosen based on their stats and contributions for the first part of the season (we are only dealing with 1/4 of a full season here), then maybe Dirk shouldn't be an all star.

This is how I would select for the AS game.

But you apparently admit that Dirk is still better than Paul. That's a pretty good reason to put him on the AS team ahead of Paul. At least, IMHO. Usually I'd be agreeing with you about the general principal.

Thus far in the season I think Paul has been better. But your question is asking me to project over the remainder of the season, and over that period I think that (1) we've seen in the past that Paul usually wears down and (2) Dirk has a proven track record. So if I have to choose one to win me as many games as possible, then I go with Dirk (also think he could be an awesome pairing with Al given his shooting ability). But I think AS is meant to reward the guys that are having the best season up to the point when the teams are being selected, not based on who I think will have the best year in the end, or who had the better season the year prior. If a guy ends up tearing it up over the 2nd half, he can be on the all-NBA team -- like what happened to Deron in his 2nd season (I think).

[LiveCoug]

Devin Harris and CJ Miles for Jeremy Lin!

[MarkGrace]

Jefferson has 3 guys around and still tries to force up a shot.

[MarkGrace]

Harris looks like an actual PG right now. Kind of surprising.

[Blueintheface]

Jefferson has 3 guys around and still tries to force up a shot.

He hasn't crossed halfcourt on at least 3 defensive posessions.

[LiveCoug]

Harris looks like an actual PG right now. Kind of surprising.

Not only that, but Roger has 10 points in the quarter.

[Blueintheface]

SEXUAL CHOCOLATE! Randy WATSON!