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  • Jeff Lebowski
    Corporate lackey for Jesus
    • Nov 2008
    • 69431

    #1096
    Originally posted by Green Monstah View Post
    Games played: 8 (-12)
    PPG: 9.3 (-.7)

    I am both sweating bullets and ecstatic that JL is close to being in the money.

    Haws had an off night and EB drops 14 from the bench. Solid.


    It's the second coming of Elijah!
    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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    • Blueintheface
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 15382

      #1097
      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post


      It's the second coming of Elijah!
      Oh boy, was I wrong then.
      "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

      "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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      • SteelBlue
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 8172

        #1098
        Originally posted by jay santos View Post
        Rowing?
        Last edited by SteelBlue; 01-13-2017, 08:17 AM.

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        • BigFatMeanie
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 7080

          #1099
          Originally posted by BlueK View Post
          No one in the NCAA plays defense. The only league that is worse defensively is the NBA -- open shots made all the time there.

          Seriously though, USF shot 24% from three, 42% overall. That's terrible for them. BYU gave up 75 points in 80 possessions which equals .9375 per possession. How does that compare to the rest of the NCAA? Well, The U. of Miami for the year gives up .937 per possession, which ranks them #28 defense in the country. UConn at #29 gives up .94. Basketball is an offensive game. You're not going to hold anyone to zero or never give up an open shot. Just because you see a few of those doesn't mean the defense for the entire game is atrocious. You're just not remembering all the good defensive plays. Fans see what they're looking for, but the stats can keep you grounded. BYU has struggled with defense in recent years. But the numbers show they're much better than they were three years ago. Give them some props for that. Numbers don't tell the perfect story, but if the narrative you're looking for is that our defense is hopelessly horrible, then the numbers shouldn't disagree by THAT much.

          www.kenpom.com
          Also, the removal of the "hand-check" from legal play a few years ago has tilted the field towards offense and away from defense as teams adjusted.

          Before the rule went into place, the NCAA team scoring average was 67.5 points per game in 2012, the lowest in more than two decades. That average is 74 points per game so far this season. A team scoring 67.5 PPG this season would be ranked 288 out of 347 total teams - only 17th percentile.

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          • BlueK
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 7116

            #1100
            Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
            Also, the removal of the "hand-check" from legal play a few years ago has tilted the field towards offense and away from defense as teams adjusted.

            Before the rule went into place, the NCAA team scoring average was 67.5 points per game in 2012, the lowest in more than two decades. That average is 74 points per game so far this season. A team scoring 67.5 PPG this season would be ranked 288 out of 347 total teams - only 17th percentile.
            great point. When Tyler Haws played it was popular and often allowed for opponents to grab and bodyslam him when he didn't have the ball. You don't see that kind of "defense" allowed anymore, which is great for BYU in general.

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            • Blueintheface
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 15382

              #1101
              I hate this team.
              "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

              "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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              • jay santos
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 13652

                #1102
                What's Dastrup's challenge this game?

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                • Blueintheface
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 15382

                  #1103
                  Originally posted by jay santos View Post
                  What's Dastrup's challenge this game?
                  To say raccoon five times in his next door approach.
                  "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                  "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                  • BigFatMeanie
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 7080

                    #1104
                    Haws stinking it up tonight. Sloppy passing, no defense, lousy shooting, behind the back dribble and loses the ball. Thinks he plays for the Harlem Globetrotters but looks like he's playing for the Lone Peak 3rd Ward teachers quorum.
                    LJ Rose passing up wide open threes because he can't hit the broadside of a barn.
                    Braiden Shaw misses the most wide open layup in the history of layups.

                    This team is just too sloppy and inconsistent.

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                    • Blueintheface
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 15382

                      #1105
                      Originally posted by BigFatMeanie View Post
                      Haws stinking it up tonight. Sloppy passing, no defense, lousy shooting, behind the back dribble and loses the ball. Thinks he plays for the Harlem Globetrotters but looks like he's playing for the Lone Peak 3rd Ward teachers quorum.
                      LJ Rose passing up wide open threes because he can't hit the broadside of a barn.
                      Braiden Shaw misses the most wide open layup in the history of layups.

                      This team is just too sloppy and inconsistent.
                      But at least they have a decent "defensive" rating which has absolutely nothing to do with elevation at which they play their home games or the size of their gym as compared to every other team in the conference.
                      "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                      "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                      • BigFatMeanie
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 7080

                        #1106
                        And Haws comes out en fuego in the second half. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

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                        • Donuthole
                          Official Outgayer
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 25222

                          #1107
                          Emery frustrates me more than any BYU player in a long time. Such a dummy.
                          Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

                          There's three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady's got a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, everything else is cream cheese. --Coach Finstock

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                          • Omaha 680
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 11165

                            #1108
                            Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                            To say raccoon five times in his next door approach.
                            you say that every year!

                            I just turned it on. Why are both teams in blue?

                            Edit: meant to quote the I hate this team post. I'm assuming you don't say the raccoon thing every year.

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                            • Blueintheface
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 15382

                              #1109
                              Originally posted by Donuthole View Post
                              Emery frustrates me more than any BYU player in a long time. Such a dummy.
                              He's being asked to play defense and be a facilitator and his response is to do nothing but play terrible defense, shoot completely idiotic shots, and turn the ball over.
                              "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                              "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                              • Blueintheface
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 15382

                                #1110
                                Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
                                you say that every year!

                                I just turned it on. Why are both teams in blue?

                                Edit: meant to quote the I hate this team post. I'm assuming you don't say the raccoon thing every year.
                                That was Santos!!
                                "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                                "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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