Brandon Davies out

[FMCoug]

Sometimes as a BYU fan I feel like I can empathize with the abused woman who can't leave the abuser.

[Art Vandelay]

And 100% accurate and correct in their dealings at all times. No chance for a mistake. This is all Davies' fault, etc. All without knowing a damn thing about what happened. "BYU said so" is good enough. Some "journalist"

Aren't all the posts on here doing the exact opposite. Making the assumption we know what happened and condemning the university with knowing almost 0 facts.

I really hate playing the role of HC apologist (I think I have enough posts on here to show I'm not a big stone the sinner type guy) but this thread seems full of assumptions.

[DapperDan]

Aren't all the posts on here doing the exact opposite. Making the assumption we know what happened and condemning the university with knowing almost 0 facts.

I really hate playing the role of HC apologist (I think I have enough posts on here to show I'm not a big stone the sinner type guy) but this thread seems full of assumptions.

When the alcoholic is slurring his words your first assumption usually isn't that he's having a stroke.

[FMCoug]

Aren't all the posts on here doing the exact opposite. Making the assumption we know what happened and condemning the university with knowing almost 0 facts.

I really hate playing the role of HC apologist (I think I have enough posts on here to show I'm not a big stone the sinner type guy) but this thread seems full of assumptions.

Fair point. Lebowski's post was proably the most level-headed and appropriate approach. Wait and see, etc.

Although I think a lot of the shock and anger comes from the rush to judgment. The HC office first heard of this 24 hours ago ...

[Viking]

I think at moments like these, Lebowski and others should create a "code red" background for the board, just to incite and illicit more angry feelings.

(though, as Babette might want me to point out, Steve Meyers would not have the authority to do so here as this is not his board)

[Goatnapper'96]

Aren't all the posts on here doing the exact opposite. Making the assumption we know what happened and condemning the university with knowing almost 0 facts.

I really hate playing the role of HC apologist (I think I have enough posts on here to show I'm not a big stone the sinner type guy) but this thread seems full of assumptions.

One of the most interesting phenomenons is how LDS folks approach the BYU HC. For the fans of BYU this incident is always clear proof of the Pharisitical nature of the Mullahs and athletes are unfairly targeted and picked on. For the fan of other schools the HC is proof of BYU hypocrisy or it should be enforced in a Draconian manner. What I get from this is the wonderful flexibility within LDS teachings and that I think very few approach BYU sports in any way other than thru their partisan eyes.

Personally, my preference is lots of HC looking the other way. Good for BYU sports and it feeds the hate. Appears they once again ignored me. I am getting used to it.

We are what we are.

[pellegrino]

Aren't all the posts on here doing the exact opposite. Making the assumption we know what happened and condemning the university with knowing almost 0 facts.

I really hate playing the role of HC apologist (I think I have enough posts on here to show I'm not a big stone the sinner type guy) but this thread seems full of assumptions.

Assumptions abound, this is true, but as someone else said, I think the HC office has established a consistent track record and I think if this follows that track record then we're justified in being upset.

There is absolutely no reason for a student to be put on probation or kicked out of the school for having had sex out of wedlock. I understand BYU has this image that they're trying to protect, but unless they are disfellowshipped or excommunicated by the proper priesthood authorities then there is no reason to issue such a drastic punishment.

[FMCoug]

It's probably a very good thing that I am back home for a few days and no longer in a hotel room with a fully stocked min-bar.

[byu71]

Heck, I said we should wait until we know the facts before judging anyone hours ago. When I say it, no one cares. Someone else says it and they are the voice of reason.

You folks descriminate against old people.

[Coach McGuirk]

Heck, I said we should wait until we know the facts before judging anyone hours ago. When I say it, no one cares. Someone else says it and they are the voice of reason.

You folks descriminate against old people.

You have no eligibility left. Why should we care?

[FMCoug]

Heck, I said we should wait until we know the facts before judging anyone hours ago. When I say it, no one cares. Someone else says it and they are the voice of reason.

You folks descriminate against old people.

We have a hard time telling the difference between senile rants and lucid posts.

[smokymountainrain]

dunno, thought this was pretty awful.



That's only the story if you feel that the HC is just.

Even for an apologist like Wrubell, that is a ridiculous statement.

[Jeff Lebowski]

dunno, thought this was pretty awful.



That's only the story if you feel that the HC is just.

Yeah, that part is pretty bad. Yikes.

[kccougar]

This thread is worse than Cougarboard.

[Viking]

Assumptions abound, this is true, but as someone else said, I think the HC office has established a consistent track record and I think if this follows that track record then we're justified in being upset.

There is absolutely no reason for a student to be put on probation or kicked out of the school for having had sex out of wedlock. I understand BYU has this image that they're trying to protect, but unless they are disfellowshipped or excommunicated by the proper priesthood authorities then there is no reason to issue such a drastic punishment.

Bingo. There is no place on the planet more difficult to be a mormon than BYU.

I claim a conspiracy perpetrated by those sons of bitches in the Crimson Club who must have infiltrated the First Presidency after Benson died and appointed GAs to run the roost post Rex Lee.