The Official 12 Pac basketball thread

[Art Vandelay]

Nobody came along with Mayo.

Romeo miller made the team but was released shortly thereafter. Many people assumed that he was accepted because His father, Master P, "pulled some strings." this theory is interesting but ultimately makes no sense, as what USC related strings does Master P have at his disposal? The real reason they signed Romeo miller was to increase their chances of signing his good friend DeMar Derozan. Turned out to be a good move.

I guess this somewhat proves your theory. The average sports fan (me) knows very little about SC basketball.

[SeattleUte]

You will be waiting a long time for that. SC isn't a basketball school. If you can figure out why SC cannot field a competitive team on a regular basis, you could probably make millions in consulting fees.

In all seriousness, can you think of a more historically underachieving basketball program in the country given its status and resources: A renown university, a global brand name, one of the most successful all around athletic programs of all time, geographic historic and cultural ties to urban inner city Fertile recruiting ground, prime weather, wealthy alumni base, big city social amenities, and now you can add top notch arena......I can't think of another school that fits this profile more than SC.

In the 1970-1971 basketball season, UCLA and USC were ranked #1 and #2 for much of the season. #2 ranked USC coached by Bob Boyd suffered its first loss against #3 ranked UCLA, blowing a 9 point second half lead. In the rematch in the final game of the season, UCLA jumped out to a big early lead and went on to win 72-63. USC would finish the season 24-2 and ranked #2, but only the conference champion, UCLA, could be invited to the 1971 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament, as there were no at-large slots in the bracket. This would be one of the cases for expanding the bracket to 32 teams for the 1975 NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament.

--Wikipedia, USC-UCLA Rivalry

I remember watching the first game. Those were brutal days. Under that regime there may well be no Jimmer in this tournament.

[smokymountainrain]

You will be waiting a long time for that. SC isn't a basketball school. If you can figure out why SC cannot field a competitive team on a regular basis, you could probably make millions in consulting fees.

In all seriousness, can you think of a more historically underachieving basketball program in the country given its status and resources: A renown university, a global brand name, one of the most successful all around athletic programs of all time, geographic historic and cultural ties to urban inner city Fertile recruiting ground, prime weather, wealthy alumni base, big city social amenities, and now you can add top notch arena......I can't think of another school that fits this profile more than SC.

Perhaps I'm oversimplifying, but they haven't been able to get and/or keep a great coach. In NCAA basketball, it's all about coaching. If Boehim, Self, Calipari, K, Izzo, Barnes, RWilliams, Brad Stephens or any other coaches of that caliber were to go to SC and stay for 20-30 years, they would field a competitive team on a regular basis.

Hell, didn't ute fans consider the U a basketball school at one time in the late 90s? That's laughable today, but back then, at the height of Majerus regime, it actually made sense.

[SeattleUte]

Perhaps I'm oversimplifying, but they haven't been able to get and/or keep a great coach. In NCAA basketball, it's all about coaching. If Boehim, Self, Calipari, K, Izzo, Barnes, RWilliams, Brad Stephens or any other coaches of that caliber were to go to SC and stay for 20-30 years, they would field a competitive team on a regular basis.

Hell, didn't ute fans consider the U a basketball school at one time in the late 90s? That's laughable today, but back then, at the height of Majerus regime, it actually made sense.

We are a basketball school. The Pack will be back.

[TripletDaddy]

Perhaps I'm oversimplifying, but they haven't been able to get and/or keep a great coach. In NCAA basketball, it's all about coaching. If Boehim, Self, Calipari, K, Izzo, Barnes, RWilliams, Brad Stephens or any other coaches of that caliber were to go to SC and stay for 20-30 years, they would field a competitive team on a regular basis.

Hell, didn't ute fans consider the U a basketball school at one time in the late 90s? That's laughable today, but back then, at the height of Majerus regime, it actually made sense.

You are on the right track, I would guess. When Floyd was here, the team did very well. Unfortunately, his alleged-illicit dealings with OJ Mayo are associated with that success.

But it really is part and parcel to the same question....why can't SC field a good coach? It isn't money, that is for sure.

I'm not too broken up about it. SC has never been a basketball school in my mind, so whatever. If they could one day get there, that would be gravy.

The weird thing about SC basketball is that the program hasn't even really been "decent" over time. It has generally been awful (at least mens...womens has had some great success in the past...yawn...)

[smokymountainrain]

But it really is part and parcel to the same question....why can't SC field a good coach? It isn't money, that is for sure.

I guess that is the real question. As you mentioned earlier, SC has everything an up and coming coach should want in a job. It seems like they could offer a guy like Brad Stephens 5x what he's getting at Butler in addition to the better facilities, recruiting pool, etc.

[Surfah]

Hasn't SC had not one but two different rappers play on their team? I know one was Little Romeo, and the other came in a package deal with OJ Mayo???

The Game was on scholarship at Wazzu before getting busted for drugs and kicked off the team and school.

[SeattleUte]

Boy, I don't think Romar teams are terribly well coached.

Freshman CJ Wilcox had 19 points in the biggest game for Washington of the season. What a huge miss for Utah schools he was.

[myboynoah]

Boy, I don't think Romar teams are terribly well coached.

Freshman CJ Wilcox had 19 points in the biggest game for Washington of the season. What a huge miss for Utah schools he was.

Wasn't he a Utah County kid?

[SeattleUte]

Freshman CJ Wilcox, now a Washington starter, scored 24 points in tonight's come from behind win over UCLA. 4-7 from 3.

C.J. Wilcox's huge 2nd half carries Washington past UCLA


SEATTLE -- C.J. Wilcox awakened Washington's slumbering offense, scoring all of his career-high 24 points in the second half, and Washington overcame an off night from leading scorer Isaiah Thomas to beat UCLA 70-63 on Thursday night.


Wilcox went to halftime scoreless, then carried the Huskies in the final 20 minutes. He hit his first two shots to start the second half and made 6 of 7 total in the second half, including five 3-pointers.

Wilcox's 3-pointer with 4:55 left pulled Washington (20-9, 11-6 Pac-10) within 53-52 and was the start of a deciding seven-point blitz. Scott Suggs added a jumper in the lane, and Thomas tipped in his own miss with 3:35 left for a 56-53 lead. He missed his first nine shots.

UCLA's Jerime Anderson tried to match Wilcox, hitting four 3-pointers and finished with 16 points, all in the second half. But the Bruins (21-9, 12-5) fell out of a tie for first place with Arizona in the conference race.

[cougjunkie]

Freshman CJ Wilcox, now a Washington starter, scored 24 points in tonight's come from behind win over UCLA. 4-7 from 3.

7.7 points per game in only 14 minutes is solid. He is also shooting 41% from three.

He never really gave the Utah schools a chance.

How come you posted his numbers against Arizona and UCLA but not his 1-8 and his 1-6 against Wash St. and Seattle?

[TripletDaddy]

How is washington doing tonight? anyone have an update?

[SeattleUte]

One thing you won't see in this thread--a blow by blow of the Pac 12 quality wins. That could get pretty tedious, but after all, we are the Pac 12.

[falafel]

One thing you won't see in this thread--a blow by blow of the Pac 12 quality wins. That could get pretty tedious embarrassing, but after all, we are the Pac 12.

FIFY

[Mormon Red Death]

Southern Cal is an enigma. So much promise, so much foundering. USC is the Brazil of college basketball. Immense, exotic, dark, sexy, and eternally promising and disappointing.

So they are always the program of the future?