Official Utah basketball coach candidates thread.

[BGRTHNUMEGO]

I would be absolutely thrilled with a hire of Matt Gottfried. We would have a proven recruiter with west coast ties to recruit the 5 scholies we need to fill next year. Plus, he really wants the job which is a plus.

I don't know who this MATT Gottfried character is that you speak of, but Mark would likely fit in well given his last three years of coaching included an NIT bid, turning down a trip to the CBI, and then being gone mid-season.

But the real question is how strong are his west coast ties really? He grew up in Illinois, played at Oral Roberts and Bama, hasn't coached in the west since his asst coach gig was up in '95. That was nearly 20 years ago.

But it seems he'd clearly be the choice over Larry K.

[cougjunkie]

I don't know who this MATT Gottfried character is that you speak of, but Mark would likely fit in well given his last three years of coaching included an NIT bid, turning down a trip to the CBI, and then being gone mid-season.

But the real question is how strong are his west coast ties really? He grew up in Illinois, played at Oral Roberts and Bama, hasn't coached in the west since his asst coach gig was up in '95. That was nearly 20 years ago.

But it seems he'd clearly be the choice over Larry K.

Don't bother with facts and common sense when dealing with Funk. It seems every Head coaching candidate that has been rumored Funk has found a way to make it look like a great hire.

Gottfried had one good year at Alabama and finished his career in turmoil including like you said a mid-season firing.

Krystowiak has never had one job for more than 2 years which tells me all I need to know about him.

The fact that either one would have accepted the job the day after Boylen was let go tells me that Hill is really struggling to find a coach and he is definitely settling. Which is amazing considering this is allegedly a top 5 job in the west.

I hope whoever they hire works out great for them so we can actually have a basketball rivalry again.

[MartyFunkhouser]

I don't know who this MATT Gottfried character is that you speak of, but Mark would likely fit in well given his last three years of coaching included an NIT bid, turning down a trip to the CBI, and then being gone mid-season.

But the real question is how strong are his west coast ties really? He grew up in Illinois, played at Oral Roberts and Bama, hasn't coached in the west since his asst coach gig was up in '95. That was nearly 20 years ago.

But it seems he'd clearly be the choice over Larry K.

Let me guess, Mark Gottfried sucks but we would be set for life if we just hired Dave Rice.

Yes, he didn't have a great last 3 years, but how about his 5 straight trips to the NCAA tournament.

[MartyFunkhouser]

Don't bother with facts and common sense when dealing with Funk. It seems every Head coaching candidate that has been rumored Funk has found a way to make it look like a great hire.

Gottfried had one good year at Alabama and finished his career in turmoil including like you said a mid-season firing.

Krystowiak has never had one job for more than 2 years which tells me all I need to know about him.

The fact that either one would have accepted the job the day after Boylen was let go tells me that Hill is really struggling to find a coach and he is definitely settling. Which is amazing considering this is allegedly a top 5 job in the west.

I hope whoever they hire works out great for them so we can actually have a basketball rivalry again.

If Mark Gottfried has only had one good year, Dave Rose has only had one good year.

2001-2002: 27-8, 1st in SEC West, 2nd round
2003-2004: 20-13, 2nd in SEC West, Elite Eight

If only one of those seasons counts as a good season, you would have a hard time counting any year the Rose has coached as good except for this year.

I realize that we are passing up a golden opportunity by going after Gottfried over Rice, but sometimes you just got to take a risk.

Oh and where is the link to where I made Larry K sound like a great hire?

[jay santos]

If Mark Gottfried has only had one good year, Dave Rose has only had one good year.

2001-2002: 27-8, 1st in SEC West, 2nd round
2003-2004: 20-13, 2nd in SEC West, Elite Eight

If only one of those seasons counts as a good season, you would have a hard time counting any year the Rose has coached as good except for this year.

I realize that we are passing up a golden opportunity by going after Gottfried over Rice, but sometimes you just got to take a risk.

Oh and where is the link to where I made Larry K sound like a great hire?

I know you love to do this tournament wins thing when comparing BYU vs Utah because it's so heavily in your favor, but you might want to rethink it when it comes to evaluating something like a coaching hire.

20-13, Elite 8. So he's 17-12 regular season. Probably was lucky to even make the NCAA that year. But in your mind that's a great season because of what is more than likely some random good luck in a couple NCAA games.

[TripletDaddy]

Again, why get rid of Boylen. Didn't he have one good tournament run?

[LA Ute]

I agree with your second paragraph. With that being the case, there is nothing wrong with fans being excited. Rival fans injecting "realism" and predicting doom and gloom is just rival fans being rival fans.

One of the biggest kicks I get from this board is the "advice" BYU fans give to us. I am sure the BYU fans enjoy our advice just as much. After all, both sides are just trying to help.

[MartyFunkhouser]

I know you love to do this tournament wins thing when comparing BYU vs Utah because it's so heavily in your favor, but you might want to rethink it when it comes to evaluating something like a coaching hire.

20-13, Elite 8. So he's 17-12 regular season. Probably was lucky to even make the NCAA that year. But in your mind that's a great season because of what is more than likely some random good luck in a couple NCAA games.

Bama wasn't even close to being a bubble team in 2004, they were an 8 seed.

IMO, Gottfried isn't really that good of a coach. He has a lot of deficiencies from an Xs and Os standpoint and his underachieving in the regular season in 2004 points in that direction. However, the guy is a phenomenal recruiter. He has AAU ties and isn't afraid to get his hands dirty in the recruiting game. Utah needs an influx of talent into this program and he is a guy that can make that happen, kind of like Alford at New Mexico. Gottfried's deficiencies in coaching can be covered by good assistant coaches.

He was successful at Alabama which is not a basketball school. Bama went to the tournament 12 times in the 70's, 80's, and 90s. They went to the tourny 5 times in Gottfried's tenure.

We aren't getting a new Rick Majerus. We aren't getting a coach that is going to destroy schools with his superior coaching ability. Basically, Brad Stevens isn't in play right now, so the hopes of getting a Majerus isn't happening. In Gottfried we get a guy that will bring in a ton a talent. My expectations in the Pac-12 aren't real high. I want Utah playing in the NCAA tournament 3/5 years, winning a good percentage of home games, and winning a conference title maybe every 5 years (but this is secondary to making the dane). Gottfried is a guy that can do that and why I would be happy with the hire.

I won't be thrilled if the hire is Larry K, but I still would take the unknown of Larry K over the known of Boylen. Utah cannot afford to let Boylen recruit another 5 players next year. If Boylen does that this program is dead for the next 5 years.

[BGRTHNUMEGO]

Let me guess, Mark Gottfried sucks but we would be set for life if we just hired Dave Rice.

Yes, he didn't have a great last 3 years, but how about his 5 straight trips to the NCAA tournament.

I haven't said anything about Rice. I don't know what kind of head coach he'll be. I was just wondering if I'm missing something on Gottfried's west coach connections, because it seems those types of things would dry up after nearly 20 years of being in the area. But I'm also not sure how many CA guys he might have lured to Alabama.

[LA Ute]

I haven't said anything about Rice. I don't know what kind of head coach he'll be. I was just wondering if I'm missing something on Gottfried's west coach connections, because it seems those types of things would dry up after nearly 20 years of being in the area. But I'm also not sure how many CA guys he might have lured to Alabama.

If Utah hires a coach without recent involvement in Western recruiting, look for coaching staff hires that address that concern.

[cougjunkie]

If Utah hires a coach without recent involvement in Western recruiting, look for coaching staff hires that address that concern.

Laute I know you will pretend you have me on ignore, but you should probably wait to comment on anything involving the Utes until you actually watch a game.

[Surfah]

Either would be great and I have known that both have been at the top of his list all along.

I am calling bullshit. If they really were at the top of Hill's list why haven't they been hired yet? They're both throwing themselves at the job. They may have been on Hill's list, but I don't buy for a second they were close to the top, rather I think they are fall back options because they could sign either whenever they want.

Also, why haven't Krysto and Gottfired being mentioned in any other coaching vacancies?

[MartyFunkhouser]

Laute I know you will pretend you have me on ignore, but you should probably wait to comment on anything involving the Utes until you actually watch a game.

Still waiting on that link where I was saying that Larry K is a great hire or playing him up as a great option for the Utes.

[MartyFunkhouser]

I am calling bullshit. If they really were at the top of Hill's list why haven't they been hired yet? They're both throwing themselves at the job. They may have been on Hill's list, but I don't buy for a second they were close to the top, rather I think they are fall back options because they could sign either whenever they want.

Also, why haven't Krysto and Gottfired being mentioned in any other coaching vacancies?

Larry K isn't being mentioned for other openings because he isn't a good option. Sure he is better than going into next year with Boylen, but that doesn't mean he is really a good hire. I'm not sure what Hill sees in Larry K.

I don't know why Gottfried hasn't been in the mix for other jobs this year. He was in the mix last year for the Ducks job.

[EuropeanFootballMale]

I am calling bullshit. If they really were at the top of Hill's list why haven't they been hired yet? They're both throwing themselves at the job. They may have been on Hill's list, but I don't buy for a second they were close to the top, rather I think they are fall back options because they could sign either whenever they want.

Also, why haven't Krysto and Gottfired being mentioned in any other coaching vacancies?

Did you miss the sexy racing post? Hill is going with a tantric hiring process this time.