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  • Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
    Considering we have recent commits (Since the WCC announcement) from Damarcus Harrison (Clemson, Florida State, NC State, Boston College and several other offers) and pretty much a done deal commit from Jordan Chatman (Oregon, Washington state, ASU, etc). It seems like it has not hurt all that much.

    If Independence has not hurt football recruiting (and it clear has not to this point in fact the exact opposite) then joining the WCC will have zero impact on basketball recruits. Sadly most high school kids and the rest of the country for that matter see the Mountain West and the WCC on pretty much the same level.
    But the opposing coaches did not have the time to show them the size of the gyms, with those recruiting class destroying volleyball lines.
    Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
    -General George S. Patton

    I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
    -DOCTOR Wuap

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    • Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
      Considering we have recent commits (Since the WCC announcement) from Damarcus Harrison (Clemson, Florida State, NC State, Boston College and several other offers) and pretty much a done deal commit from Jordan Chatman (Oregon, Washington state, ASU, etc). It seems like it has not hurt all that much.

      If Independence has not hurt football recruiting (and it clear has not to this point in fact the exact opposite) then joining the WCC will have zero impact on basketball recruits. Sadly most high school kids and the rest of the country for that matter see the Mountain West and the WCC on pretty much the same level.
      I agree completely that going to the WCC will not hurt BYU's ability to recruit LDS athletes especially LDS athletes who are children of former BYU players.

      Now recruiting non-LDS athletes and non-children of former BYU players, it will have an impact.
      As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
      --Kendrick Lamar

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      • Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
        I agree completely that going to the WCC will not hurt BYU's ability to recruit LDS athletes especially LDS athletes who are children of former BYU players.

        Now recruiting non-LDS athletes and non-children of former BYU players, it will have an impact.
        Like who Matt Carlino? Who decided to transfer to BYU from UCLA even though he knew we were going to the WCC?

        Or do you mean like Jordan Loveridge? A non-LDS African American that has said several times BYU is his top choice?
        *Banned*

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        • Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
          I agree completely that going to the WCC will not hurt BYU's ability to recruit LDS athletes especially LDS athletes who are children of former BYU players.

          Now recruiting non-LDS athletes and non-children of former BYU players, it will have an impact.
          What an odd thing to say. Even for you.
          "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

          "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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          • Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
            If I had less class I'd post "We're Doomed!" Good thing I took the highroad. Love you, LA!
            You're never doomed. There is always hope. For BYU, at least. Utah, however, is doomed. It's our lot in life.

            We will be the next Washington State in the PAC.

            We'll never get a decent hoops coach and the new conference is not going to help us much at all in our search.

            We are even reduced to being taunted here for having been rejected in our search by a lowly WCC coach. (That the taunt comes from a fan of the newest WCC member school is interesting, but not surprising.)

            I learned all this here.
            “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
            ― W.H. Auden


            "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
            -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


            "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
            --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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            • Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
              But the opposing coaches did not have the time to show them the size of the gyms, with those recruiting class destroying volleyball lines.
              Maybe whoever BYU's coach is can make a deal with whoever the next Utah coach is: If you won't mention the volleyball lines, we won't mention the smoke machines.
              “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
              ― W.H. Auden


              "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
              -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


              "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
              --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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              • Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                You're never doomed. There is always hope. For BYU, at least. Utah, however, is doomed. It's our lot in life.

                We will be the next Washington State in the PAC.

                We'll never get a decent hoops coach and the new conference is not going to help us much at all in our search.

                We are even reduced to being taunted here for having been rejected in our search by a lowly WCC coach. (That the taunt comes from a fan of the newest WCC member school is interesting, but not surprising.)

                I learned all this here.
                Accepting your fate is the first step, LA. Bravo.
                "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                • Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                  We are even reduced to being taunted here for having been rejected in our search by a lowly WCC coach.
                  Are we sure this really happened? Is it 100% certain that Utah approached Bennett?

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                  • Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                    You're never doomed. There is always hope. For BYU, at least. Utah, however, is doomed. It's our lot in life.

                    We will be the next Washington State in the PAC.

                    We'll never get a decent hoops coach and the new conference is not going to help us much at all in our search.

                    We are even reduced to being taunted here for having been rejected in our search by a lowly WCC coach. (That the taunt comes from a fan of the newest WCC member school is interesting, but not surprising.)

                    I learned all this here.
                    Holy cow you sound whiny.

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                    • Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                      You're never doomed. There is always hope. For BYU, at least. Utah, however, is doomed. It's our lot in life.

                      We will be the next Washington State in the PAC.

                      We'll never get a decent hoops coach and the new conference is not going to help us much at all in our search.

                      We are even reduced to being taunted here for having been rejected in our search by a lowly WCC coach. (That the taunt comes from a fan of the newest WCC member school is interesting, but not surprising.)

                      I learned all this here.
                      Originally posted by LA Coug View Post
                      Are we sure this really happened? Is it 100% certain that Utah approached Bennett?
                      Um...you're talking to yourself again dammit!

                      BTW, don't make me look up all those posts I made about the rise of the Runnin' Utes when you finally put on your big boy pants on July 1st. :anger:
                      Last edited by Blueintheface; 03-23-2011, 03:26 PM.
                      "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

                      "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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                      • Originally posted by cougjunkie View Post
                        Like who Matt Carlino? Who decided to transfer to BYU from UCLA even though he knew we were going to the WCC?

                        Or do you mean like Jordan Loveridge? A non-LDS African American that has said several times BYU is his top choice?
                        I didn't say it will completely destroy your recruiting, just that moving to a lesser conference will impact it which certainly isn't a crazy statement. As for Jordan Loveridge, I agree it also won't impact your instate recruiting.
                        As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
                        --Kendrick Lamar

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                        • Originally posted by mpfunk View Post
                          I didn't say it will completely destroy your recruiting, just that moving to a lesser conference will impact it which certainly isn't a crazy statement. As for Jordan Loveridge, I agree it also won't impact your instate recruiting.
                          So it is not likely to impact BYU with mormon kids, mormon kids whose dads played at BYU or in-state recruiting.

                          Can somebody tell me exactly how many players BYU has recruited outside of those 3 demographic types that had scholie opportunities significantly better than the WCC coming out of HS?
                          Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
                          -General George S. Patton

                          I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
                          -DOCTOR Wuap

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                          • Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                            Um...you're talking to yourself again dammit!

                            BTW, don't make me look up all those posts I made about the rise of the Runnin' Utes when you finally put on your big boy pants on July 1st. :anger:
                            You are one of the good guys, BITF. I am simply tweaking a few others here, whom I love as my brothers in the gospel but whom I detest as BYU fans.

                            Originally posted by LA Coug View Post
                            Are we sure this really happened? Is it 100% certain that Utah approached Bennett?
                            I am not sure anyone on these boards really knows much of anything about what is really happening.

                            Originally posted by Goatnapper'96 View Post
                            So it is not likely to impact BYU with mormon kids, mormon kids whose dads played at BYU or in-state recruiting.

                            Can somebody tell me exactly how many players BYU has recruited outside of those 3 demographic types that had scholie opportunities significantly better than the WCC coming out of HS?
                            I cannot believe you are dissing Garner Meads this way.

                            Originally posted by YOhio View Post
                            Holy cow you sound whiny.
                            You want whiny? Keep that up, pal , and I'll show you whiny. Meanwhile, please get off my lawn!
                            Last edited by LA Ute; 03-23-2011, 03:43 PM.
                            “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                            ― W.H. Auden


                            "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                            -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                            "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                            --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                            • Originally posted by LA Ute View Post

                              We will be the next Washington State in the PAC.
                              That would be an upgrade from the last few years. This year Washington State went 21-12 (9-9 in PAC), with a couple of decent wins (they beat Gonzaga by 21 points, beat Washington twice, beat Baylow when they were ranked) and lost several very close games (#5 K-State by 5, #25 Arizona by 2, a few close losses to UCLA, etc). This would have been a decent upgrade over our last two seasons.

                              Now they are in the NIT quarterfinals. Depite what people say, the NIT is NOT a tourney played by teams ranked #64 and higher.

                              All in all the Cougars did OK this year.

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                              • Originally posted by NorthwestUteFan View Post
                                Now they are in the NIT quarterfinals. Depite what people say, the NIT is NOT a tourney played by teams ranked #64 and higher.
                                Can you explain this statement?

                                Or do you mean becasue of the first four gimmick it is now 68 and higher?
                                PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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