2010-11 BYU Basketball Thread

[hostile]

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Why, Jay?

Do you think BYU's zone is a disadvantage when it comes to seeding? Or do you think there is an intent to match strength against weakness in such a way that disadvantages BYU (or any other team for that matter)? Just curious.

Yes. See Utah/Kentucky

[KillerDog]

I think the selection committee watching games makes sense. I think many basketball experts were surprised to see BYU and SDSU play a tournament style and tournament quality game. The visual affect of the game was probably one of the reasons neither team lost a lot of ground last week despite losing one game each. You couldn't watch that game and not realize that both teams could really play ball and were legit top 10 teams.

[jay santos]

Why, Jay?

Do you think BYU's zone is a disadvantage when it comes to seeding? Or do you think there is an intent to match strength against weakness in such a way that disadvantages BYU (or any other team for that matter)? Just curious.

I just think they have no business getting into that level of detail. Who are they to decide one kind of defense or offense is better than another? Even attending games and being in the atmosphere, I'm concerned with. How do you compare watching St Mary's vs Pepperdine play in a high school gym vs North Carolina vs whoever in the Dean Dome? I'd almost prefer they know nothing about basketball but have a few different polls and rankings to use and leave it at that.

[BGRTHNUMEGO]

Huge week for BYU's resume. When the week started BYU's overall SOS had dropped to 22 and its OOC SOS had fallen to its lowest for a while at 28. After nice weeks by most of its OOC opponents those numbers have gone to 11 and 16 and BYU is #1 in the RPI again. But outside of just the SOS jumps, Utah State moved to 25 in the RPI and AFA's win at Utah made them a more solid Top 100 RPI team at 88 (and they'll probably even move up a bit after losing to BYU).

Current resume:

RPI - 1, Pomeroy - 8, SOS - 10, OOC SOS - 14

Top 50 wins (road/neutral game in italics)

SDSU - 4
Arizona - 17
USU - 25
UNLV - 28
UNLV - 28
St. Mary's - 35
Colorado State - 50

Top 51-100 wins

UTEP - 61
Vermont - 79
Air Force - 88

Quality losses

UCLA - 41
New Mexico - 60

Games vs. Top 100 left to play

AFA - 88
CSU - 50
SDSU - 4
UNM - 60

[KillerDog]

Huge week for BYU's resume. When the week started BYU's overall SOS had dropped to 22 and its OOC SOS had fallen to its lowest for a while at 28. After nice weeks by most of its OOC opponents those numbers have gone to 11 and 16 and BYU is #1 in the RPI again. But outside of just the SOS jumps, Utah State moved to 25 in the RPI and AFA's win at Utah made them a more solid Top 100 RPI team at 88 (and they'll probably even move up a bit after losing to BYU).

Current resume:

RPI - 1, Pomeroy - 8, SOS - 11, OOC SOS - 16

Top 50 wins (road/neutral game in italics)

SDSU - 4
Arizona - 17
USU - 25
UNLV - 28
UNLV - 28
St. Mary's - 35
Colorado State - 50

Top 51-100 wins

UTEP - 61
Vermont - 79
Air Force - 88

Quality losses

UCLA - 41
New Mexico - 60

Games vs. Top 100 left to play

AFA - 88
CSU - 50
SDSU - 4
UNM - 60

In the past we've been dinged for not having enough wins against top 25 rpi teams and not having enough wins against other tournament teams. That is not the case so far this year. I believe we have 6 or 7 wins over tournament teams right now and the Arizona win is going to be huge for us considering they will be a 6 or 7.

[BGRTHNUMEGO]

In the past we've been dinged for not having enough wins against top 25 rpi teams and not having enough wins against other tournament teams. That is not the case so far this year. I believe we have 6 or 7 wins over tournament teams right now and the Arizona win is going to be huge for us considering they will be a 6 or 7.

I should have added the 12-2 away/neutral record. In some past years the committee has used that as a seeding consideration to separate two closely matched teams.

[Guest]

I think the selection committee watching games makes sense. I think many basketball experts were surprised to see BYU and SDSU play a tournament style and tournament quality game. The visual affect of the game was probably one of the reasons neither team lost a lot of ground last week despite losing one game each. You couldn't watch that game and not realize that both teams could really play ball and were legit top 10 teams.

Hopefully the committee didn't watch the Wyoming game. Thank goodness for the MTN.

[Sizzle]

Jay Drew tweets that Kyle Collinsworth has his mission call to Russia. No word on start date though.

Would it be so wrong to send Chris again?

[BGRTHNUMEGO]

Jay Drew tweets that Kyle Collinsworth has his mission call to Russia. No word on start date though.

Would it be so wrong to send Chris again?

The girl Chris accompanied to the Jazz/Thunder game would probably be disappointed. And she got him better seats than Jimmer had...CC and his lady friend were on the front row right at halfcourt.

It was a bummer to see him walk in on crutches, and to see her "tan". They showed up pretty late, right when the Jazz were falling apart, so it left me wondering about "what ifs" with BYU and a healthy CC instead of paying attention to the Jazz game.

[Surfah]

The girl Chris accompanied to the Jazz/Thunder game would probably be disappointed. And she got him better seats than Jimmer had...CC and his lady friend were on the front row right at halfcourt.

It was a bummer to see him walk in on crutches, and to see her "tan". They showed up pretty late, right when the Jazz were falling apart, so it left me wondering about "what ifs" with BYU and a healthy CC instead of paying attention to the Jazz game.

I didn't realize that CC had microfracture surgery. There might be no coming back for him.

[Surfah]

BYU moves up in each poll one spot. 7/8

[Flystripper]

BYU #8 in Coaches and #7 in AP

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

[Color Me Badd Fan]

With BYU #7/8 in the polls and #1 in the RPI (at least the ones I've seen), I guess one can assume that BYU would have a #2 seed if the selections were made today.

A few weeks back I posted that BYU had four losable games left in the regular season: SDSU, @UNM, UNLV and @SDSU. I thought BYU was probably going to lose two. @SDSU goes without saying as the most likely game BYU may lose, but in my mind the second was @UNM. BYU's now played three of these games and they're 2-1. I think BYU's going to lose @SDSU.

And SDSU may end up winning the conference and getting the #1 seed in the conference tourney as a result of that damn UNM game. Which means -- REEEEEEEE----BELLLLLLS in the second round of the UNLV postseason invitational. So, we're looking at, IMO, four losses before the NCAA tourney which I think will result in a #4 seed.

[Jacob]

And SDSU may end up winning the conference and getting the #1 seed in the conference tourney as a result of that damn UNM game. Which means -- REEEEEEEE----BELLLLLLS in the second round of the UNLV postseason invitational. So, we're looking at, IMO, four losses before the NCAA tourney which I think will result in a #4 seed.

UNLV is currently a game back of CSU and CSU gets UNLV at home. Here's to hoping...unless we beat SDSU.

[Blueintheface]

With BYU #7/8 in the polls and #1 in the RPI (at least the ones I've seen), I guess one can assume that BYU would have a #2 seed if the selections were made today.

A few weeks back I posted that BYU had four losable games left in the regular season: SDSU, @UNM, UNLV and @SDSU. I thought BYU was probably going to lose two. @SDSU goes without saying as the most likely game BYU may lose, but in my mind the second was @UNM. BYU's now played three of these games and they're 2-1. I think BYU's going to lose @SDSU.

And SDSU may end up winning the conference and getting the #1 seed in the conference tourney as a result of that damn UNM game. Which means -- REEEEEEEE----BELLLLLLS in the second round of the UNLV postseason invitational. So, we're looking at, IMO, four losses before the NCAA tourney which I think will result in a #4 seed.

I still think we beat UNLV in Vegas. That team just flat out can't shoot straight. I do agree the Cougs will lose in SoCal though. But with 3 losses and the attrition taking place back East I still see a 2 seed as a distinct possibility.