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I wish him well but the mentality that he is serving a mission is really parochial. I am living in the mission field making the gentiles love us mormon people! "Oh - I really want to be the one going to Japan like my friend is!" It is always a mystery to me why these mormons just can't admit the truth. He isn't going on a mission because he doesn't want to similar to why Jimmer Fredette or Danny Ainge didn't go. He is more along the lines of Steve Young so perhaps he is eying the EFY World Tour as pro hoopsters have the summer months off.Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post
I like Duke cuz I like Coach K - he can probably still quote "The Definition of Leather."Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
-General George S. Patton
I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
-DOCTOR Wuap
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Originally posted by BigPiney View PostI hope duke loses in the first round of the tourney like when Parker wasted a year there.
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Frank's dad bugs me bad enough that I don't care what he does. Especially since he de-committed? He can eat a turd burger on rye. Good for him- whatever. Jabari was never coming here and we all understood that. Frank's just too good for BYU
so he can EAFD.
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Amen.Originally posted by Commando View PostFrank's dad bugs me bad enough that I don't care what he does. Especially since he de-committed? He can eat a turd burger on rye. Good for him- whatever. Jabari was never coming here and we all understood that. Frank's just too good for BYU
so he can EAFD."Nobody listens to Turtle."-Turtlesigpic
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Tonight I watched the the replay of Duke/Viginia St. on WatchESPN. Jackson didn't start, but he played a lot of minutes. His handle look kind of shaky at times, and he made a couple of bad passes, but he's quick, plays good defense and has a nice looking shot. He's going to be really good, and I wish him nothing but the best. He would have been a fool to choose BYU over Duke.Originally posted by CardiacCoug View Post"The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane
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Ha. OK.Originally posted by Non Sequitur View PostTonight I watched the the replay of Duke/Viginia St. on WatchESPN. Jackson didn't start, but he played a lot of minutes. His handle look kind of shaky at times, and he made a couple of bad passes, but he's quick, plays good defense and has a nice looking shot. He's going to be really good, and I wish him nothing but the best. He would have been a fool to choose BYU over Duke."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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I don't hold the article title against him as that presumably comes from ESPN, but as with many such articles, I question its origin. Did Duke reach out to ESPN with the story idea? Did his dad? Maybe ESPN called Duke looking for ideas to hit their Duke story quota for the morning.
I'm ambivalent about LDS players who go elsewhere but I'm certainly not ambivalent about Duke -- I hope they lose every game.
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That really desperate angle that he'd make basketball "his mission" while at Duke is kind of sad to me. I understand if Michael Jordan joined the Church that would do something. If BYU made the final four that might create a spike in the graph. Frank J. playing at Duke? ehhh...Originally posted by Armenag View PostI don't hold the article title against him as that presumably comes from ESPN, but as with many such articles, I question its origin. Did Duke reach out to ESPN with the story idea? Did his dad? Maybe ESPN called Duke looking for ideas to hit their Duke story quota for the morning.
I'm ambivalent about LDS players who go elsewhere but I'm certainly not ambivalent about Duke -- I hope they lose every game."I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"
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He'd better be effing passing out BOMs at practice and to the first few rows of the Cameron Crazies!Originally posted by Commando View PostThat really desperate angle that he'd make basketball "his mission" while at Duke is kind of sad to me. I understand if Michael Jordan joined the Church that would do something. If BYU made the final four that might create a spike in the graph. Frank J. playing at Duke? ehhh...Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
Dig your own grave, and save!
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ESPN just published a national article dedicated to the Church's missionary program. It reached millions of people. That one article reached more people than the two years of every former missionary here combined.Originally posted by falafel View PostHe'd better be effing passing out BOMs at practice and to the first few rows of the Cameron Crazies!"The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane
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If you were Al, how would you have advised your son? BYU simply doesn't have the same weight as Duke. We created a Wooden Award winner that is now playing in China. Duke has had second team players that are currently playing in the NBA.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostHa. OK."The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane
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If Jimmer had gone to Duke, he still wouldn't be playing in the NBA, and he also wouldn't have won the Wooden award and be a household name. Looks like he made a good decision.Originally posted by Non Sequitur View PostIf you were Al, how would you have advised your son? BYU simply doesn't have the same weight as Duke. We created a Wooden Award winner that is now playing in China. Duke has had second team players that are currently playing in the NBA.
Here are the colleges of the All NBA first three team players last year:
Davidson
None
UCLA
San Diego St.
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Michigan St
Kentucky
Wake Forest
Weber St
Fresno St
Texas
UConn
Washington St
Villanova
Weber St, Davidson, SDSU, and Washington St all managed to be represented. And it's not like this is unusual. Bird went to Indiana St, Stockton went to Gonzaga (at a time when they had never made the tournament), Malone went to La Tech, David Robinson went to Navy, Pippen went to Central Arkansas, Nash went to Santa Clara, etc., etc.
Duke puts more players in the NBA than BYU because in a normal year their #8 recruit is ranked higher than BYU's #1 recruit, not because they have a magical ability to turn their players into NBA players. If anything you could argue that Duke players vastly under perform in the NBA, so top recruits should avoid them.
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Frank is forgoing what could be one of the most spiritually enriching experiences of his personal mortal life for the sake of his personal ambition, certainly a tough decision for a kid with Frank's God given skills, and uses mormon corporate/marketing culture to defend it and an apostate, who regularly rails against said culture, holds it up because he wants to be out of step/march to the tune of a different drummer on a BYU sports message board.Originally posted by Non Sequitur View PostESPN just published a national article dedicated to the Church's missionary program. It reached millions of people. That one article reached more people than the two years of every former missionary here combined.
Frank is being a mormon wanker and taking himself too serious if he thinks Jesus would prefer him on the front page of ESPN rather than helping some poor indigenous soul come unto Christ. I doubt knocking on "doors," or whatever sorry excuse for a barrier to protect a threshold exists in Ecuador or the Ivory Coast, isnearly as glamorous or pays as well but it will do the part about Frank that I believe Jesus cares about most more good. But in some ways Frank's acceptance of his "mission call" despite how much it hurts him to tear himself away from knocking on doors in Japan, is a product of the mormon culture when folks within in had to find the moral highground to explain Danny Ainge, Steve Young and the Jimmer.
Honesty is always the best policy.Do Your Damnedest In An Ostentatious Manner All The Time!
-General George S. Patton
I'm choosing to mostly ignore your fatuity here and instead overwhelm you with so much data that you'll maybe, just maybe, realize that you have reams to read on this subject before you can contribute meaningfully to any conversation on this topic.
-DOCTOR Wuap
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Seriously?
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