2020 General Presidential Election Thread

[MartyFunkhouser]

Before 1998, you had to wait 7 years after college before being eligible for discharge. Such a system could be reinstated. Having practiced primarily in Bankruptcy for 10 years before gradually transitioning into where I am now, I think the best way to help those who truly need it would be to have dischargeability available after a buffer period to show a good faith effort, such as 7-10 years, but also to relax the definition of undue hardship that the courts have promulgated over the years. It is currently defined as the inability (now or in the future) to repay the student loan debt and still maintain a minimal standard of living and a showing of a good faith effort to pay. If I remember right one court went so far as to state "certainty of hopelessness" as its standard.

I think eliminating the future considerations and requiring a showing of a good faith effort in the buffer period mentioned above is all that it should take. After that, the same test as with other debts should apply using the bankruptcy schedules that are based on the code. As stated by OG, there are real consequences to bankruptcy, especially if you have built up assets in the interim while ignoring student loans. There will always be certain loopholes that can be used and people who abuse the system, but the current system treated whatever abuses of the system in the past like throwing out the a 70,000 vote victory over a couple of anecdotal tales.

All of those sound completely reasonable approaches. What is happening now is not sustainable.

[MartyFunkhouser]

You have got to be kidding me, I'm dying here.

I don't know how to embed tweets:

Judge: "Does the amended complaint plead fraud with particularity?"

Giuliani: "No."

[MartyFunkhouser]

Judge is asking pretty rudimentary questions: What standard of review should I apply?

Giuliani: "The normal one."

[Flystripper]

It’s astounding. I am not an attorney, but I do expert witness work on occasion. I feel like I have a better grasp of the rules of evidence than he does.

Sad!


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[Commando]

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[Commando]

You have got to be kidding me, I'm dying here.

I don't know how to embed tweets:

You go: [tweet]*long number at the end of a tweet’s url /tweet]

[Bo Diddley]

Worth every last penny his services cost!

[old_gregg]

the standard of review discussion is just... mind boggling

[All-American]

2020 General Presidential Election Thread

Every lawyer—well, maybe just most lawyers—struggle with the imposter syndrome, where they feel deep down that they don’t really belong and aren’t up to standard.

This helps.

[Omaha 680]

Look who they have as mayor now.

The biggest surprise to me reading that is that he was the US Attorney for the Southern District of NY. It is good to have good people below you holding you up, apparently.

Rudy was a good mayor and a good prosecutor. But like you said it was probably less because of his dizzying intellect and more because he was a good leader who put capable people in positions to implement what he knew were winning overall strategies. But he is a shell of his former self. And a cautionary tale.

[UVACoug]

PA supreme court rejects trump argument.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...rvers-n1248046

Seems like the right decision, although I'm not sure about the reasoning. It is a bit ironic, though, that a month ago the same Court issued a decision that completely disregarded the legislature's election laws. Maybe they chose this reason as big F#$* You! to Trump for appealing their deadline decision to the Supreme Court. Basically a "You want us to follow the letter of the law? OK then ...."

[UVACoug]

This guy was the Mayor of New York...

I know we can have the same amazement about Trump.

Two peas in a pod.


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And considered the favorite to win the Republican nomination in 2008 for a while. "America's Mayor."

[All-American]

And considered the favorite to win the Republican nomination in 2008 for a while. "America's Mayor."

Good heavens.

[frank ryan]

Rudy was a good mayor and a good prosecutor. But like you said it was probably less because of his dizzying intellect and more because he was a good leader who put capable people in positions to implement what he knew were winning overall strategies. But he is a shell of his former self. And a cautionary tale.

He was thought to be somewhat shady as a Prosecutor. He was chummy at times with mobsters. Chummy with mobsters etc.

[All-American]

He was thought to be somewhat shady as a Prosecutor. He was chummy at times with mobsters. Chummy with mobsters etc.

In sum, he was the mayor of New York.