2020 General Presidential Election Thread

[Northwestcoug]

He definitely paid too much.

Lol. Cue a thousand memes we’ll be seeing today.

[PaloAltoCougar]

Remember when future Trump supporters gave John Edwards shit about his $400 haircut? At least Edwards' trim looked good. Trump's tonsure is absurdly bad--that he's paid tens of thousand of dollars, supported by U.S. taxpayers, for that thing on his head adds yet another hilarious page to the Trump bio. The Trump University of hairdos.

[SteelBlue]

There once was a president Trump
Whose value was down in the dumps
He grinded his axe, took a pass paying tax
And now only pays porn stars he humps

You should tweet that.

[wapiti]

The GOP has realized that winning the EC is easier than winning the popular vote.

Is it easier? Do the dems not know this?

[Harry Tic]

I've never really played around on the FEC website before. Interesting to see how donations from BYU faculty and staff are distributed to different political parties.

https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/in...12%2F31%2F2020

There may be something to that rumor about BYU faculty being raging leftists after all...

[USUC]

Is it easier? Do the dems not know this?

I don't get the constant complaining about the EC. It is what it is. It's not changing without amending the Constitution (unless the Dems successfully pack the court and enough states sign on to that clearly unconstitutional state compact). You know, the Dems are just as capable of coming up with a strategy to win the same way the GOP does. Instead of complaining, adjust.

[Now who’s the dean?]

I've never really played around on the FEC website before. Interesting to see how donations from BYU faculty and staff are distributed to different political parties.

https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/in...12%2F31%2F2020

There may be something to that rumor about BYU faculty being raging leftists after all...

Pretty much all educated people [emoji91][emoji91]

[LVAllen]

The easiest way to change the EC is to repeal the Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929 and increase the number of Representatives. 700+ Representatives (roughly 1:500,000 people), or 1000 (1:350,000 people) +100 for Senators and however many for DC would do quite a bit towards fixing the claims that the EC is undemocratic.

No constitutional amendment required.

[Northwestcoug]

Is it easier? Do the dems not know this?

I'm sure they already do. But until they can convince a mass migration to a bunch of central states, they can't take advantage of the EC like the GOP is currently doing.

I don't get the constant complaining about the EC. It is what it is. It's not changing without amending the Constitution (unless the Dems successfully pack the court and enough states sign on to that clearly unconstitutional state compact). You know, the Dems are just as capable of coming up with a strategy to win the same way the GOP does. Instead of complaining, adjust.

I'm complaining because in a more sane world it shouldn't be what it is. If a couple of generations from now democratic voters leave the most populous states and increase their proportion in the many smaller states the GOP now controls, and thereby winning like them, then it will still be a problem.

[Northwestcoug]

Is it easier? Do the dems not know this?

I'm sure they already do. But until they can convince a mass migration to a bunch of central states, they can't take advantage of the EC like the GOP is currently doing.

I don't get the constant complaining about the EC. It is what it is. It's not changing without amending the Constitution (unless the Dems successfully pack the court and enough states sign on to that clearly unconstitutional state compact). You know, the Dems are just as capable of coming up with a strategy to win the same way the GOP does. Instead of complaining, adjust.

I'm complaining because in a more sane world it shouldn't be what it is. If a couple of generations from now democratic voters leave the most populous states and increase their proportion in the many smaller states the GOP now controls, and thereby winning like them, then it will still be a problem.

[falafel]

I'm sure they already do. But until they can convince a mass migration to a bunch of central states, they can't take advantage of the EC like the GOP is currently doing.



I'm complaining because in a more sane world it shouldn't be what it is. If a couple of generations from now democratic voters leave the most populous states and increase their proportion in the many smaller states the GOP now controls, and thereby winning like them, then it will still be a problem.

The problem is (and you know this), eliminating the EC gives those large population blue states much more power in electing the President at the expense of the more rural red states. The EC is designed to even things out and make candidates appeal to the whole country, not just the urban areas/states. Why aren't you concerned about the smaller states getting left behind?

[Bo Diddley]

The easiest way to change the EC is to repeal the Permanent Apportionment Act of 1929 and increase the number of Representatives. 700+ Representatives (roughly 1:500,000 people), or 1000 (1:350,000 people) +100 for Senators and however many for DC would do quite a bit towards fixing the claims that the EC is undemocratic.

No constitutional amendment required.

I like this, but it's gonna be harder to take them all out at once.

[BlueK]

The problem is (and you know this), eliminating the EC gives those large population blue states much more power in electing the President at the expense of the more rural red states. The EC is designed to even things out and make candidates appeal to the whole country, not just the urban areas/states. Why aren't you concerned about the smaller states getting left behind?

What was the proportion of the population living in larger populated states back then compared to lesser populated states compared to today? The answer to that question would go a long way toward answering whether the effect has actually gone too far toward giving way more power to smaller states than what they intended when it was set up. However, over time I think technology is going to send a lot more of the educated population into the lesser populated states which will probably even things out politically. It may take a decade or two to be noticeable though. It's already happening in western states like CO and AZ.

[Jeff Lebowski]

The electoral college is great. One of the best parts of the constitution.

[Jeff Lebowski]

I've never really played around on the FEC website before. Interesting to see how donations from BYU faculty and staff are distributed to different political parties.

https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/in...12%2F31%2F2020

There may be something to that rumor about BYU faculty being raging leftists after all...

That is interesting.

Never heard of ACTBLUE before.