At what point did you / will you take the coronavirus epidemic seriously?

[SeattleUte]

Let’s Get Real About Coronavirus Tests
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/o...e=articleShare

[Jarid in Cedar]

Let’s Get Real About Coronavirus Tests
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/o...e=articleShare

100% agree with this OP piece. The quality control and absence of the standard approval process by the FDA has created a glut of tests with questionable accuracy. The CDC's initial decision to not use the testing developed by South Korea probably ranks among the most egregious errors in the US's initial response. The time wasted working through the errors in their initial test, which ultimately led to a lag in test production, is one of the reasons that we got so far behind the 8 ball with testing and case tracing.

[smokymountainrain]

even restaurants and movie theaters could open - but open such that they let only a certain number of people in the establishment at a time. assign seating so people are properly social distanced.

https://twitter.com/PolitiKurd/status/1254957863153414144

i was told here this wouldn't work, but apparently some restaurants giving it a shot.

[old_gregg]

https://twitter.com/PolitiKurd/statu...57863153414144

i was told here this wouldn't work, but apparently some restaurants giving it a shot.

it's going to work only if customers have patience for it to work, particularly at a place like puckett's where most of the menu is prepped in advance anyway (smoked meat, pies, ice cream, bulk sides, etc.). i would bet that whatever menu they're reopening with is significantly smaller than the one they had before shutdown.

[Northwestcoug]

Let’s Get Real About Coronavirus Tests
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/o...e=articleShare

That's a good summary of laboratory medicine testing, not just for COVID-19 but all testing in general.

I've fielded calls from many physician groups in our community. They all want serologic testing but we haven't come across a test that I feel is specific enough for the low prevalence of COVID in our community. Yesterday the admin came through and gave me cover; they are not bringing serologic testing in house at this time. It was the right decision. We're still actively looking for a test, but for our population it may be best to follow Oregon's health department's guidelines (when they come up with one for serologic testing).

[SeattleUte]

100% agree with this OP piece. The quality control and absence of the standard approval process by the FDA has created a glut of tests with questionable accuracy. The CDC's initial decision to not use the testing developed by South Korea probably ranks among the most egregious errors in the US's initial response. The time wasted working through the errors in their initial test, which ultimately led to a lag in test production, is one of the reasons that we got so far behind the 8 ball with testing and case tracing.

The South Korean tests would still not be of equal benefit here. https://twitter.com/benshapiro/statu...972004353?s=21

[BigPiney]

The South Korean tests would still not be of equal benefit here. https://twitter.com/benshapiro/statu...972004353?s=21

huh?

[Jarid in Cedar]

The South Korean tests would still not be of equal benefit here. https://twitter.com/benshapiro/statu...972004353?s=21

Stipulated. But at the time, it was a functional test that was already in production. It was a viable stop gap that we chose not to use. And frankly, I have no idea if we even inquired.

[Commando]

Stipulated. But at the time, it was a functional test that was already in production. It was a viable stop gap that we chose not to use. And frankly, I have no idea if we even inquired.

We had our first case the same day as S. Korea. We officially fucked up. And by 'we' I mean Trump.

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[SeattleUte]

huh?

Dr. JIC seems to have understood me.

[SeattleUte]

The WHO also said there was no human to human transmission until the end of January and said it would be contained in China in mid February so we really don't have anything to worry about.

No immunity defies science.

[Uncle Ted]

https://twitter.com/PolitiKurd/statu...57863153414144

i was told here this wouldn't work, but apparently some restaurants giving it a shot.

Science!

https://nypost.com/2020/04/26/science-says-its-time-to-start-easing-the-coronavirus-lockdowns/

[Northwestcoug]

We had our first case the same day as S. Korea. We officially fucked up. And by 'we' I mean Trump.

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Plenty of blame to go around. The CDC rejected using the S. Korean test, thinking they would be able to come up with their own quickly. They didn't. And other feds (FDA I think) didn't allow testing of Seattle samples early on, which could have given us valuable data to act on.

[Northwestcoug]

No immunity defies science.

Not in the sense we are talking about. Immunity implies protection against future infections. It could be that COVID doesn't generate a strong enough antibody or cell-mediated response to protect patients against future exposure. Also, we need to study a season of this to see how much the virus is mutating (looks relatively stable so far), which would also decrease immunity.

[Jarid in Cedar]

The South Korean tests would still not be of equal benefit here. https://twitter.com/benshapiro/statu...972004353?s=21

He is saying that their testing protocol would not be of equal benefit. To which I agree. The test itself would be just fine.

huh?

South Korea undertook a massive testing program at the onset of the outbreak, identifying many asymptomatic people and isolating them as well. Given the scale of the outbreak note in the US, Shapiro is saying that a similar strategy is not feasible for us due to sheer numbers needed to test.