At what point did you / will you take the coronavirus epidemic seriously?

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  • wapiti
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 2064

    #3106
    Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
    Utah is testing aggressively. The state is 4th highest in tests per million with over 33,000 tests per mil. The positive rate has remained steady around 5% for the last month. I don't think there would be enough incremental benefit gained by being more aggressive than they have.
    About a week ago I read that Utah's contact tracing had identified and isolated 85% of the positive tests.

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    • myboynoah
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 21719

      #3107
      Originally posted by wapiti View Post
      About a week ago I read that Utah's contact tracing had identified and isolated 85% of the positive tests.
      Excellent if true.
      Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

      For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

      Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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      • myboynoah
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 21719

        #3108
        What is wrong with these idiots?

        Nutjob.

        Pence meets with Mayo Clinic patients, staff while not wearing face mask

        “Since I don’t have the coronavirus, I thought it’d be a good opportunity for me to be here, to be able to speak to these researchers these incredible health-care personnel and look them in the eye and say thank you,” Pence said.
        Nutjob reasoning.
        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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        • myboynoah
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 21719

          #3109
          https://Antibody tests support what’...l than the flu

          The most controversial such study came out of Santa Clara County, Calif., the heart of Silicon Valley. It claimed that the true number of infections in the county in early April may have been 50 to 85 times the official coronavirus case counts. Extrapolating from that, it gave an estimated infection fatality rate of between 0.12 and 0.2 percent.

          That provided what seemed like reliable ammunition to those who believe the danger of covid-19 has been overstated. They said the numbers show this disease is not much different from seasonal flu.

          A commonly cited statistic about seasonal flu is that it has a fatality rate of 0.1 percent, That, however, is a case fatality rate. The infection fatality rate for flu is perhaps only half that, Viboud said. Shaman estimated that it’s about one-quarter the case fatality rate.

          Thus, even if the Santa Clara numbers are roughly accurate about the spread of the virus and its lethality, it would still be deadlier than the flu.

          Statisticians and other epidemiologists have argued that there were also errors in data analysis in the Santa Clara report, which was led by researchers at Stanford University. The researchers used advertisements on Facebook to call for volunteers, and critics said that may have led to an unrepresentative sampling of the county. The critics noted that even a small rate of false positives can skew a survey in which the targeted disease has low prevalence.

          Shaman, the epidemiologist, said he hopes the higher estimates for infections and commensurately lower fatality rates are correct. Everyone needs more testing and better data, he said.

          For now, the preponderance of evidence describes an exceptional pathogen. For someone like Shaman, who wears a mask when he walks the dog in New York City and is conscientious about washing his hands, there is no doubt that the endgame is far away — that until a vaccine or reliable therapeutics are in place, or when so many people have been sickened and then recovered that the country achieves “herd immunity,” everyone needs to try to limit the spread of the virus.

          “We have completely disrupted our society through our social distancing practices, shutting our businesses, closing our schools, and still this thing has already killed 53,000 people in the United States,” he said. “We have a very long way to go until we get herd immunity.”
          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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          • Jarid in Cedar
            CS Institutional Memory
            • Jun 2009
            • 13234

            #3110
            The comment of it being an exceptional pathogen is spot on. As a disease, it is probably only challenged by Ebola, MERS, and maybe SARS-1 in its killing ability. Those diseases have a higher mortality rate, but a much lower case load.
            "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

            "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

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            -Rick Majerus

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            • Uncle Ted
              The Big 12 money shot.
              • Apr 2010
              • 28853

              #3111
              Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
              What is wrong with these idiots?

              Nutjob.

              Pence meets with Mayo Clinic patients, staff while not wearing face mask



              Nutjob reasoning.
              That's nothing...



              And I once saw him beat the crap out of a bunch of lizard men:



              Pence is one bad*ss MoFo.
              "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
              "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
              "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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              • myboynoah
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 21719

                #3112
                Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                That's nothing...



                And I once saw him beat the crap out of a bunch of lizard men:



                Pence is one bad*ss MoFo.
                I loved that Johnny Quest show. Didn't like the dog.
                Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                • myboynoah
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 21719

                  #3113
                  Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
                  The comment of it being an exceptional pathogen is spot on. As a disease, it is probably only challenged by Ebola, MERS, and maybe SARS-1 in its killing ability. Those diseases have a higher mortality rate, but a much lower case load.
                  We watched the Netflicks covid "explained" show last night. Those are dumb viruses compared to COVID because they are too lethal and some aren't contagious until symptoms manifest, hampering the viruses' ability to spread more widely.
                  Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                  For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                  Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                  • myboynoah
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 21719

                    #3114
                    Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                    Pence is one bad*ss MoFo.
                    Nope. Not at all. Pence fears Trump more than he fears Jesus.

                    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                    • Moliere
                      One man.....one pie
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 27808

                      #3115
                      It's funny that in my part of Texas, it was an order (by a Democrat judge) for people to wear masks outside that pushed everyone over the edge. Everyone was flipping out and even protesting when the order came out. Never mind that 95%+ of people are obeying by wearing a mask...of course they are wearing a mask because THEY chose to wear it, not because a democrat judge is ordering them to wear it.
                      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                      • Moliere
                        One man.....one pie
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 27808

                        #3116
                        Looks like Remdesivir is showing some positive results in non-blind studies. At least the market ceratinly likes what it's seeing.
                        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                        • smokymountainrain
                          Impressive Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 22593

                          #3117
                          Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
                          Utah is testing aggressively. The state is 4th highest in tests per million with over 33,000 tests per mil. The positive rate has remained steady around 5% for the last month. I don't think there would be enough incremental benefit gained by being more aggressive than they have.
                          It has actually been dropping over the last week to two weeks. we are down to about 4%. not sure that changes the point you're making, but just want to point that out. i
                          I'm like LeBron James.
                          -mpfunk

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                          • Uncle Ted
                            The Big 12 money shot.
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 28853

                            #3118
                            Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                            Looks like Remdesivir is showing some positive results in non-blind studies. At least the market ceratinly likes what it's seeing.
                            I am waiting until NWCoug has had a chance to review the results... He will point out the faults in the studies for us. Just like he did for Hydroxychloroquine. Speaking of which can you believe those Koreans are still using that stuff? Don't they know the side effects will just make things worse?

                            Hydroxychloroquine used by Korea for Covid-19 while US is divided

                            South Korea recommended the anti-malarial drug HCQ to treat Covid-19 while political interference in the US over the drug has alarmed medical experts
                            [...]
                            South Korea was one of the first countries to be hit by the virus after China, reporting its first case on January 20 and peaking by late February, before suddenly tapering off in early March and “flattening the curve.” It also has a comparatively low mortality rate through a combination of testing, tracing, containment and HCQ.
                            [...]
                            https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hydr...us-is-divided/

                            What a bunch of dummies.

                            In other news six monkeys didn't catch COVID-19...

                            6 monkeys given an experimental coronavirus vaccine from Oxford did not catch COVID-19 after heavy exposure, raising hopes for a human vaccine

                            • Monkeys given an experimental vaccine from the University of Oxford appear to have resisted the novel coronavirus.
                            • Six rhesus macaques given hAdOx1 nCoV-19 in Montana did not fall ill despite heavy exposure, The New York Times reported Monday.
                            • There is no guarantee the vaccine will work on humans, but successful animal tests are a promising early sign.
                            • The Oxford Vaccine Group began human trials for the vaccine last week.

                            [...]


                            So maybe some good news for monkeys.
                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • Sleeping in EQ
                              Philosopher of Men
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 4188

                              #3119
                              Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                              I am waiting until NWCoug has had a chance to review the results... He will point out the faults in the studies for us. Just like he did for Hydroxychloroquine. Speaking of which can you believe those Koreans are still using that stuff? Don't they know the side effects will just make things worse?


                              https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/hydr...us-is-divided/

                              What a bunch of dummies.

                              In other news six monkeys didn't catch COVID-19...




                              So maybe some good news for monkeys.
                              Notice Ted's rhetorical structure:

                              Sarcasm (waiting for NWCoug)
                              Sarcasm (Koreans)
                              Mockery (dummies)
                              Sarcasm and Mockery (news speak and monkeys)
                              Sarcasm and Mockery (news speak and monkeys)
                              We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

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                              • Jeff Lebowski
                                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 69494

                                #3120
                                Originally posted by Sleeping in EQ View Post
                                Notice Ted's rhetorical structure:

                                Sarcasm (waiting for NWCoug)
                                Sarcasm (Koreans)
                                Mockery (dummies)
                                Sarcasm and Mockery (news speak and monkeys)
                                Sarcasm and Mockery (news speak and monkeys)
                                It’s almost like an algorithm.
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