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What happened to Owens. She is certifiable..
Interesting article on the impact if the regime falls. I am sure Israel will be prepared to assist and ensure the arsenal of Iran does not fall into the wrong hands as well as the U.S. but another power vacuum and ensuring more hardened Iranians do not take control is vitally important.
Iran regime collapse could unleash nightmare scenario for Israel
The missiles and nuclear program aren't going anywhere, and if Khamenei is ousted, they could fall into the hands of even more extreme elements who won't hesitate to use them.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has openly backed Iranian demonstrators, anticipating the demise of Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei's rule. From Israel's vantage point, dismantling a regime committed to its destruction – one that pursued military nuclear capabilities while constructing a proxy "ring of fire" encircling Israeli territory – represents a potentially game-changing Middle Eastern development. Yet regime collapse offers no assurance that successor governments will adopt more moderate or Israel-friendly positions. The notion of restoring the Shah's monarchy or installing overtly pro-Western leadership remains largely a fantasy.
More troubling still, pre-collapse developments could spawn dangerous transformations. Should the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) dramatically eclipse clerical authority, Tehran might abandon Khamenei's comparative caution, embracing aggressive postures regarding both nuclear advancement and direct confrontation with Israel.
Worse scenarios loom: governmental collapse could enable terrorist elements operating inside Iran to capture strategic assets. Beyond extreme factions accessing sensitive capabilities, Iranian governmental disintegration could trigger complete control loss over these capabilities – carrying severe regional and international consequences.
Therefore, while Israeli aspirations for Iranian regime change prove understandable and natural, crucial recognition matters: regime transformation guarantees no policy transformation. Post-Khamenei realities could confront Israel with complex, dangerous circumstances – potentially worse than present conditions.
Worse scenarios loom: governmental collapse could enable terrorist elements operating inside Iran to capture strategic assets. Beyond extreme factions accessing sensitive capabilities, Iranian governmental disintegration could trigger complete control loss over these capabilities – carrying severe regional and international consequences.
Therefore, while Israeli aspirations for Iranian regime change prove understandable and natural, crucial recognition matters: regime transformation guarantees no policy transformation. Post-Khamenei realities could confront Israel with complex, dangerous circumstances – potentially worse than present conditions.
https://www.israelhayom.com/2026/01/...curity-threat/
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The US is moving people out of bases in Qatar. Maybe Maximus will get his wish."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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I find this “Uncle” cry from Iran not good enough for us to not move forward. This is bullshit weak ass Trump!! You had your chance to help the revolution and you “Mucked it up”..
A true transformational change in Iran could really have an impact in the ME. The stage that funds and supports so many terrorist factions agains us.
Fucking coward Trump.
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We are back to TACO.Originally posted by dabrockster View PostI find this “Uncle” cry from Iran not good enough for us to not love forward. This is bullshit weak ass Trump!! You had your chance to help the revolution and you “Mucked it up”..
A true transformational change in Iran could really have an impact in the ME. The stage that funds and supports so many terrorist factions agains us.
Fucking coward Trump."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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I appreciate your enthusiasm, but we have limited options. How does one successfully, while limiting risk, support mass demonstrators topple their government? The situation on the ground is pretty fluid and we likely don't have a super clear picture. I wonder how cooperative our "allies" in the region are being. They would have to deal with the negative results if any action we take is not successful, or even misguided, so they are likely cautious. Do we take out leadership? If so, how? And who do you take out? Will that lead to more desperate and violent actions against the demonstrators? As in VeneSuela, there are people on the Ayatollah side ready to step in and fill leadership roles should the people above them get taken out. These and other factors/questions are likely affecting decision-making.Originally posted by dabrockster View PostI find this “Uncle” cry from Iran not good enough for us to not love forward. This is bullshit weak ass Trump!! You had your chance to help the revolution and you “Mucked it up”..
A true transformational change in Iran could really have an impact in the ME. The stage that funds and supports so many terrorist factions agains us.
Fucking coward Trump.
It's unfortunate there isn't an active insurgency that we could support.Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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After Iraq, it is funny that people think we can just drop a few bombs and conquer Iran.Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
I appreciate your enthusiasm, but we have limited options. How does one successfully, while limiting risk, support mass demonstrators topple their government? The situation on the ground is pretty fluid and we likely don't have a super clear picture. I wonder how cooperative our "allies" in the region are being. They would have to deal with the negative results if any action we take is not successful, or even misguided, so they are likely cautious. Do we take out leadership? If so, how? And who do you take out? Will that lead to more desperate and violent actions against the demonstrators? As in VeneSuela, there are people on the Ayatollah side ready to step in and fill leadership roles should the people above them get taken out. These and other factors/questions are likely affecting decision-making.
It's unfortunate there isn't an active insurgency that we could support."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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Yeah, it is hard to successfully facilitate regime change. I was listening to a podcast about Syria. They noted that the only thing that was able to get Assad out of there was Turkey's support for their chose Syrian insurgent group that eventually defeated the Syrian army.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
After Iraq, it is funny that people think we can just drop a few bombs and conquer Iran.
I still don't have a good feel for the magnitude of the opposition in Iran. It is obviously significant, but how significant. And what will come afterward? Remember Arab Spring? How much did things really change?Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!
For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.
Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."
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I find it hard to believe there is not some white-paper case study on how to topple Iran in certain situations. Having tendencies plans in place for such things is beneficial to our strategies. Yes, I would prefer the killing of Iran leadership and funneling money or arms to help support the revolution. Without boots on the ground. My opinion on action is based on the fact Trump opened his fucking mouth and blew smoke. He elevated their spirits which increased more deaths and protesting. I hope he doesn’t sleep well from all that should weigh on him. For him to now step back and walk away. He’s like that little-shit instigator that stirs the pot and backs away to watch the other two fight.Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
I appreciate your enthusiasm, but we have limited options. How does one successfully, while limiting risk, support mass demonstrators topple their government? The situation on the ground is pretty fluid and we likely don't have a super clear picture. I wonder how cooperative our "allies" in the region are being. They would have to deal with the negative results if any action we take is not successful, or even misguided, so they are likely cautious. Do we take out leadership? If so, how? And who do you take out? Will that lead to more desperate and violent actions against the demonstrators? As in VeneSuela, there are people on the Ayatollah side ready to step in and fill leadership roles should the people above them get taken out. These and other factors/questions are likely affecting decision-making.
It's unfortunate there isn't an active insurgency that we could support.
He would have been better off not saying a word then what he did. I rarely want to hear him speak. He’s a fucking blowhard. He has the balls to bomb them before. He should have made moves earlier to get them to stop well before the loss of likely over 20K Iranians who saw a shimmer of hope and light to have it distinguished by a coward who never gave a shit in the first place.
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Originally posted by Bo Diddley View PostOh boy. You're really not going to believe this.
Let me tell you a story about an accidental out of office email reply that said "Stand Down", a calendar invite, and one eyed Army cook named Elvis...
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"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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