Violence by White Supremicists on the rise

[Northwestcoug]

There is rather nutty things I have heard/read and to just dismiss shows how much it is ringing true. I mean, Soros recently sent 3-millions and another 6.7 million to the Indivisible Organization that is organizing the No Kings movement. Soo.. Puhlease...

Money going to political causes, in and of itself, is nothing to be alarmed at. Soros, Koch brothers, and a bunch of other rich people shower their money to causes that are important to them. But Soros has become such a bogeyman for the right that it has lost all meaning.

Outside of Soros funding some type of No Kings movement (doesn't raise my eyebrows but I still want to know for sure), where is the evidence of any direct Soros connection to left-wing political violence?

[myboynoah]

There have been many articles linking both together and some from reputable news organizations like The Atlantic, Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC and other various news organizations..

And if you can't understand the guilt by association and the feeling a person has being indirectly-connected to such a deplorable group, I cannot help you.. The reality is.. Common sense individuals will remain silent over such things out of fear of being labeled as such. Cancel culture, Woke and various other groups have had that impact. Hell, in my workplace, I hear some of the most absurd bullshit things and I no longer engage out of fear of the opinion these poeple have of me. These are good people too. Soft-hearted people but you show any ounce in some areas. They turn dark..

I honestly have no idea what you are saying, and don't want to assume.

[falafel]

There is rather nutty things I have heard/read and to just dismiss shows how much it is ringing true. I mean, Soros recently sent 3-millions and another 6.7 million to the Indivisible Organization that is organizing the No Kings movement. Soo.. Puhlease...

What is wrong with the No Kings movement?

[SteelBlue]

There is rather nutty things I have heard/read and to just dismiss shows how much it is ringing true. I mean, Soros recently sent 3-millions and another 6.7 million to the Indivisible Organization that is organizing the No Kings movement. Soo.. Puhlease...

You're proving my point. Donating to an organization that promotes civic engagement, notably peaceful protest, is not odd or out of the ordinary for anyone, let alone the uber-wealthy. Walton of Wal-Mart also donates this group. Soros does not pay protestors, bus people to the events, or organize the events as is often reported falsely. Also, if I assume you, Brock, make 100k/year, that Soros donation is the equivalent of you donating about $150. Scale matters.

[SteelBlue]

I think the Right uses this the same way the Left uses Project 2025.

I feel like there is some truth to both.

Well, one is in print and is happening before your eyes and by their own account is approaching 50% implemented 11 months into Trump's term. The other is absolutely nebulous and is used to stop thought immediately for half the country. A better comparison might be to say the left uses Trump the way the right uses Soros. But again, people have eyes and ears and Trump is always speaking and tweeting. You ever heard Soros speak? You know what he looks like? Unlikely. He's a true bogeyman because he's not out there putting himself in the middle of it and every movement needs something to move against.

[dabrockster]

What is wrong with the No Kings movement?

This is just one example of how Soros funds many liberal activities. This was just one example as it was a current event. I do find it ironic to see this funded by billionaires and signs saying "No Billionaires".. But to think this movement or any other political movement/protest is to help garner votes and movement in their direction is a bit one-sided. These activities can gain results. Tea party started small and then individuals were voted into congress.

So, back to my original point. These funding have purpose and that purpose is to gain positive results to their ideas and political party that mirrors their ideology.



Steel Blue: Let's not pretend this is his ONLY funding he has done. Over the years through his Open Society Foundation, he has donated over 32-BILLION to similar causes and organizations.. In 2017 alone he transferred 18-Billion of his money to his organization. All for Democratic politicians and PACs. And to throw out he doesn't fund protestors. I find hard to believe as that insurmountable amount of money does likely make it down that path..

[Northwestcoug]

Well, one is in print and is happening before your eyes and by their own account is approaching 50% implemented 11 months into Trump's term. The other is absolutely nebulous and is used to stop thought immediately for half the country. A better comparison might be to say the left uses Trump the way the right uses Soros. But again, people have eyes and ears and Trump is always speaking and tweeting. You ever heard Soros speak? You know what he looks like? Unlikely. He's a true bogeyman because he's not out there putting himself in the middle of it and every movement needs something to move against.

Remember when one of the side quests of this board was to debate if project 2025 was being implemented by Trump? Fun times.

If Trump was openly touting project 2025 from the beginning, how would the results be any different than what we are seeing?

[Jeff Lebowski]

Remember when one of the side quests of this board was to debate if project 2025 was being implemented by Trump? Fun times.

If Trump was openly touting project 2025 from the beginning, how would the results be any different than what we are seeing?

The project 2025 handwringing always cracked me up. You are worried about some secret plan? Good hell, just listen to what Trump was saying in public. Besides, no way Trump is reading a long book either way.

[Shaka]

I don't think white supremacy is on the rise. I think it's just another term that has been appropriated by some loud folks on the left to describe any caucasian that does something they do not like. Nazi and fascists are also good examples of this kind of appropriation.

[SteelBlue]

Steel Blue: Let's not pretend this is his ONLY funding he has done. Over the years through his Open Society Foundation, he has donated over 32-BILLION to similar causes and organizations.. In 2017 alone he transferred 18-Billion of his money to his organization. All for Democratic politicians and PACs. And to throw out he doesn't fund protestors. I find hard to believe as that insurmountable amount of money does likely make it down that path..

You make it sound so sinister because you've been conditioned to have his name be a thought stopper and it works. Are you aware he survived the Nazi occupation and then the Communists in Hungary before he made his way here? You don't think he has some opinions and some preferences for how he'd like to see the world work. I have yet to talk to a Soros hater who can tell me any real thing about him and his beliefs, but damn if they don't know there's a "playbook" and they think they know his finances better than his accountants.

[chrisrenrut]

This is just one example of how Soros funds many liberal activities. This was just one example as it was a current event. I do find it ironic to see this funded by billionaires and signs saying "No Billionaires".. But to think this movement or any other political movement/protest is to help garner votes and movement in their direction is a bit one-sided. These activities can gain results. Tea party started small and then individuals were voted into congress.

So, back to my original point. These funding have purpose and that purpose is to gain positive results to their ideas and political party that mirrors their ideology.



Steel Blue: Let's not pretend this is his ONLY funding he has done. Over the years through his Open Society Foundation, he has donated over 32-BILLION to similar causes and organizations.. In 2017 alone he transferred 18-Billion of his money to his organization. All for Democratic politicians and PACs. And to throw out he doesn't fund protestors. I find hard to believe as that insurmountable amount of money does likely make it down that path..

Two thoughts:

1- is there a reputable source documenting all of this spending by Soros? All I have seen is rumor and innuendo

1- If Soros spent over 18 Billion and we still ended up with Trump and his ilk in power, he’s pretty ineffective with his spending. Doesn’t see like someone the Right needs to be too worried about about.

[BigFatMeanie]

Each side has their evil billionaire boogeyman routine. It reminds me of the old SAT questions that had the structure: X:Y as _____:Z and you had to fill in the blank.

Soros:Right as Koch:Left

[falafel]

This is just one example of how Soros funds many liberal activities. This was just one example as it was a current event. I do find it ironic to see this funded by billionaires and signs saying "No Billionaires".. But to think this movement or any other political movement/protest is to help garner votes and movement in their direction is a bit one-sided. These activities can gain results. Tea party started small and then individuals were voted into congress.

So, back to my original point. These funding have purpose and that purpose is to gain positive results to their ideas and political party that mirrors their ideology.

I agree that funding political events has a purpose and that people are going to fund the ideas and parties they believe in. It would seem pretty bizarre if they didn't operate that way. Is your opinion that billionaires shouldn't fund political causes?

[falafel]

Each side has their evil billionaire boogeyman routine. It reminds me of the old SAT questions that had the structure: X:Y as _____:Z and you had to fill in the blank.

Soros:Right as Koch:Left

Don't forget Adelson! His foundation is on the list of those that donated to the TRUMP Ballroom.

[Flystripper]

I don't think white supremacy is on the rise. I think it's just another term that has been appropriated by some loud folks on the left to describe any caucasian that does something they do not like. Nazi and fascists are also good examples of this kind of appropriation.

I honestly don't know if membership in white supremacist organizations is on the rise but logic dictates that white supremacist organizations gain more acceptance in a climate where white supremacist ideals are acceptable. When the GOP leadership says in Charlottesville that there are good people on both sides and that the Proud Boys should stand by and stand down it emboldens these organizations and people are more likely to align with said organizations. If the GOP doesn't want to be associated with white supremacists then maybe just once they could say that these organizations represent the worst of our society instead of embracing them. How about distancing yourself from them rather than say and do things that cause them to cheer you on.

There isn't a white supremacist/GOP ven diagram with intersecting circles because the smaller white supremacists circle is entirely inside the larger GOP circle. SJBH