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  • Originally posted by Copelius View Post

    Can I say that I hate the U of U?
    No.
    As I lead this army, make room for mistakes and depression
    --Kendrick Lamar

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    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

      Yeah, but if anyone starts a thread entitled "Violence by non-white people is on the rise" or something like that, I will delete it. The last thing we need is for this forum to be flagged as a hate site by web bots. Be judicious, por favor.
      This could not more perfectly illustrate the point I was making i.e. that white-supremacists committing violence for reasons driven by white-supremacy is actually a thing, hence this thread to discuss it.
      Prepare to put mustard on those words, for you will soon be consuming them, along with this slice of humble pie that comes direct from the oven of shame set at gas mark “egg on your face”! -- Moss

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      • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

        Having threads about specific social concerns, that I feel go underaddressed is not segregating.

        For one, it's a helpful way to order conversations.

        If someone wants to discuss concerns with Mormons, and someone has other specific concerns with Islamic extremism, it doesn't need to be kept in one thread about religiosity.

        Thats a bit gatekeepy dude.

        I don't know that you'd have the same response if this was a thread about leftist extremism
        We don't have to worry about that happening for a few reasons....

        1. There are enough people on here that would defend it.

        2. There are enough people on here that would point out that it is response to right wing extremism and we should understand. (i.e. the burning down and looting of everything after the George Floyd situation).

        And it goes to what JL is alluding to....if this thread was about anything other that "white", it would be shut down. I'm not into self-abuse (either way you sickos).

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        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

          Yeah, but if anyone starts a thread entitled "Violence by non-white people is on the rise" or something like that, I will delete it. The last thing we need is for this forum to be flagged as a hate site by web bots. Be judicious, por favor.
          How about GOP-Political Hate groups vs. DEM-Political hate groups.

          I didn’t see any place to put this and this seemed the most relevant. I think it is relevant for both..

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          • Originally posted by The_Tick View Post

            We don't have to worry about that happening for a few reasons....

            1. There are enough people on here that would defend it.

            2. There are enough people on here that would point out that it is response to right wing extremism and we should understand. (i.e. the burning down and looting of everything after the George Floyd situation).

            And it goes to what JL is alluding to....if this thread was about anything other that "white", it would be shut down. I'm not into self-abuse (either way you sickos).
            Oh come on. I am just saying be careful how you word your thread titles. I am not saying you can't have that discussion.
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            • Originally posted by Copelius View Post

              Can I say that I hate the U of U?
              Please do.
              "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
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              • Originally posted by Pelado View Post

                Please do.

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                • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                  Yeah, but if anyone starts a thread entitled "Violence by non-white people is on the rise" or something like that, I will delete it. The last thing we need is for this forum to be flagged as a hate site by web bots. Be judicious, por favor.

                  DHJL
                  "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                  • Originally posted by Moliere View Post


                    DHJL
                    Actually, I should retract that statement. I can't think of anyone here who is genuinely racist and/or dumb enough to create an overtly racist thread title. I am not worried.

                    Back to the original point, there is nothing wrong with having a thread on violence by white supremacists. That is a real cultural issue. Having that discussion is not discriminatory against white people. Now if there is a claim made that white people are bad simply by virtue of being white, that would be a dumb and racist things to say. Ditto for any other ethnic group.
                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • Originally posted by dabrockster View Post

                      How about GOP-Political Hate groups vs. DEM-Political hate groups.

                      I didn’t see any place to put this and this seemed the most relevant. I think it is relevant for both..
                      Just to add more reasoning for why I think my post is relevant here. The initial creation and statement was "Right-wing violence is on the rise".. Soo.. Why not just call it what it is. "Right-wing Violence is on the rise" as the thread title. Rather than equating White Supremacy and GOP are one in the same, but I believe that was the objective and straight from a Soros-led guidebook.. It is rather inflammatory and a shaming-method the left uses in public to sway voters and silence those who have conservative values but are equally horrified by racism..

                      My post and article is a counter argument to that statement and the overall notion they are.

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                      • Originally posted by dabrockster View Post

                        Just to add more reasoning for why I think my post is relevant here. The initial creation and statement was "Right-wing violence is on the rise".. Soo.. Why not just call it what it is. "Right-wing Violence is on the rise" as the thread title. Rather than equating White Supremacy and GOP are one in the same, but I believe that was the objective and straight from a Soros-led guidebook.. It is rather inflammatory and a shaming-method the left uses in public to sway voters and silence those who have conservative values but are equally horrified by racism..

                        My post and article is a counter argument to that statement and the overall notion they are.
                        I think you are reading way too much into this. White Supremacy is an issue and the profile is on the rise IMO. It has also been tied to violence in the U.S. So it's something we shouldn't be concerned about discussing and noting.

                        No one here believes White Supremacy and GOP are one in the same. Admittedly, lately we've seen a lot of statements and commentary by GOP and MAGA operatives showing sympathy or even support for some white supremacy thinking. It's good that it exposed and those elements be excised from the GOP. The same goes for antisemitism on the left. Expose it and root it out.

                        I don't understand how someone can be shamed by others exposing and discussing horrible thinking and behavior.
                        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                        • Originally posted by dabrockster View Post

                          but I believe that was the objective and straight from a Soros-led guidebook..
                          Why do people not realize how nutty this sounds? Right wing uses him like religion uses Satan.

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                          • Originally posted by SteelBlue View Post

                            Why do people not realize how nutty this sounds? Right wing uses him like religion uses Satan.
                            I think the Right uses this the same way the Left uses Project 2025.

                            I feel like there is some truth to both.

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                            • Originally posted by SteelBlue View Post

                              Why do people not realize how nutty this sounds? Right wing uses him like religion uses Satan.
                              There is rather nutty things I have heard/read and to just dismiss shows how much it is ringing true. I mean, Soros recently sent 3-millions and another 6.7 million to the Indivisible Organization that is organizing the No Kings movement. Soo.. Puhlease...

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                              • Originally posted by myboynoah View Post

                                I think you are reading way too much into this. White Supremacy is an issue and the profile is on the rise IMO. It has also been tied to violence in the U.S. So it's something we shouldn't be concerned about discussing and noting.

                                No one here believes White Supremacy and GOP are one in the same. Admittedly, lately we've seen a lot of statements and commentary by GOP and MAGA operatives showing sympathy or even support for some white supremacy thinking. It's good that it exposed and those elements be excised from the GOP. The same goes for antisemitism on the left. Expose it and root it out.

                                I don't understand how someone can be shamed by others exposing and discussing horrible thinking and behavior.
                                There have been many articles linking both together and some from reputable news organizations like The Atlantic, Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC and other various news organizations..

                                And if you can't understand the guilt by association and the feeling a person has being indirectly-connected to such a deplorable group, I cannot help you.. The reality is.. Common sense individuals will remain silent over such things out of fear of being labeled as such. Cancel culture, Woke and various other groups have had that impact. Hell, in my workplace, I hear some of the most absurd bullshit things and I no longer engage out of fear of the opinion these poeple have of me. These are good people too. Soft-hearted people but you show any ounce in some areas. They turn dark..

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