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  • Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
    Travis Frey hits the nail on the head when he says "Deep down nobody gives a shit about racism". More disturbing than the quantified rise in the number of hate groups in America, is the indifference of so many on the right to their white supremacist/neo-nazi fellow constituents.
    What are we supposed to do about our "white supremacist/neo-nazi fellow constituents?"

    I generally vote republican. Voting is the extent of my political involvement. I would never vote for someone who expressed racist views or aligned herself with white supremacist ideology. (Not many people like that show up on the ballot.) Does that make me indifferent to the white supremacist who checks the same box that I check on election day and are you disturbed by my alleged indifference?

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    • Originally posted by wapiti View Post
      What are we supposed to do about our "white supremacist/neo-nazi fellow constituents?"

      I generally vote republican. Voting is the extent of my political involvement. I would never vote for someone who expressed racist views or aligned herself with white supremacist ideology. (Not many people like that show up on the ballot.) Does that make me indifferent to the white supremacist who checks the same box that I check on election day and are you disturbed by my alleged indifference?
      You can disagree, but to me it seems right now the way the administration is currently handling immigration both in rhetoric and practice is along white nationalist ideals. So to me, it's the equivalent of what you just said about not voting for Republicans who have that ideology. I lean heavily libertarian, but I used to still be pretty comfortable with most traditional Republican values like low taxes, free trade, responsible spending (in talk and theory anyway), and supportive of democratic ideals in other countries. Today's GOP doesn't look much like that anymore. Or at least the guy at the top doesn't, but it's not much good if the rest of the party just falls in line and never speaks up when they don't agree. So yeah, none of them will get my vote probably for a very long time.
      Last edited by BlueK; 01-08-2020, 06:44 AM.

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      • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
        You can disagree, but to me it seems right now the way the administration is currently handling immigration both in rhetoric and practice is along white nationalist ideals. So to me, it's the equivalent of what you just said about not voting for Republicans who have that ideology. I lean heavily libertarian, but I used to still be pretty comfortable with most traditional Republican values like low taxes, free trade, responsible spending (in talk and theory anyway), and supportive of democratic ideals in other countries. Today's GOP doesn't look much like that anymore. Or at least the guy at the top doesn't, but it's not much good if the rest of the party just falls in line and never speaks up when they don't agree. So yeah, none of them will get my vote probably for a very long time.
        People can start by not supporting an administration that has Stephen Miller as a key member of it.

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        • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
          You can disagree, but to me it seems right now the way the administration is currently handling immigration both in rhetoric and practice is along white nationalist ideals.
          Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
          People can start by not supporting an administration that has Stephen Miller as a key member of it.
          "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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          • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
            People can start by not supporting an administration that has Stephen Miller as a key member of it.
            Miller is a white nationalist. It's all over his speeches and writings, and he cites other white nationalists all the time who don't have a problem proclaiming themselves as such. I don't think that's really debatable.

            And in terms of policy right now, there is very little difference in Trump's stated rhetoric, goals, and enforcement from what Miller has long argued for.

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            • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
              Miller is a white nationalist. It's all over his speeches and writings, and he cites other white nationalists all the time who don't have a problem proclaiming themselves as such. I don't think that's really debatable.

              And in terms of policy right now, there is very little difference in Trump's stated rhetoric, goals, and enforcement from what Miller has long argued for.
              All the stuff he passed along and discussed with Breitbart prior to his current role has been exposed and was a lot of white supremacist garbage. It’s not fake news of “TDS” to call Miller exactly what he is.

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              • FBI arrests three more members of right wing extremist group 'The Base'


                The arrests came on the same day that three suspected members of the same group were detained in Maryland and Delaware.
                All six men are reported members of white supremacist group The Base.
                One of the three was a Canadian army reservist who had been missing for several months after fleeing Canada.
                Patrik Matthews is believed to have illegally crossed into the US after his alleged affiliations with The Base were discovered. He was arrested alongside two others in the Maryland and Delaware operation.
                The FBI said Mr Matthews and two others planned to travel to a pro-gun rally on Monday in Richmond, Virginia. Virginia governor Ralph Northam declared a state of emergency on Wednesday ahead of the rally, to block attendees from carrying weapons near the grounds of the Capitol building, citing credible threats of violence.
                ...

                Luke Austin Lane, Michael Helterbrand, and Jacob Kaderli were planning to "overthrow the government and murder a Bartow County couple" who they believed to be Antifa members, Floyd County police said in a statement.
                An unnamed member of The Base who crossed into the US illegally met with two members of those arrested in Georgia in October 2019 to discuss revenge attacks against his enemies, according to charging documents.
                The gang member, presumed to be Mr Matthews, is said to have called for the "death penalty" against anyone engaged in anti-fascist activities.
                https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51144177

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                • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                  FBI arrests three more members of right wing extremist group 'The Base'

                  The FBI said Mr Matthews and two others planned to travel to a pro-gun rally on Monday in Richmond, Virginia. Virginia governor Ralph Northam declared a state of emergency on Wednesday ahead of the rally, to block attendees from carrying weapons near the grounds of the Capitol building, citing credible threats of violence.
                  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51144177
                  Man, that pro-gun rally was crazy!



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                  "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                  "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                  "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                  GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                  • Soldiers’ cases highlight reach of white supremacy in U.S. military

                    As Ohio National Guard soldiers were dispatched to help quell unrest in Washington, D.C., one was keeping a secret from his commanders: He had frequently espoused neo-Nazi views among like-minded friends.

                    Pfc. Shandon Simpson had participated in a white supremacist channel on the Telegram messaging app called RapeWaffen Division, according to the SITE Intelligence Group. The channel’s members have touted the rape of female police officers, posted images with Confederate battle flags and swastikas and called white women who have children with men of other races “traitors.”

                    . . . . . . .

                    Simpson’s case has come into focus as another soldier faces serious charges. On Monday, the Justice Department charged Pvt. Ethan P. Melzer in a plot in which authorities said he worked with the extremist group Order of Nine Angles in an attempt to kill fellow American soldiers abroad.

                    Members of the “racially motivated violent extremist group” have espoused neo-Nazi and satanic beliefs and admiration for both Hitler and Osama bin Laden, the indictment said.

                    . . . . . . .

                    Another soldier, Pfc. Corwyn Storm Carver, was scrutinized last year by the Army after investigative reports raised concerns about his alleged membership in the Atomwaffen Division, an American neo-Nazi group, the official said. Social media posts discovered in the investigation showed that Carver used hashtags for O9A and posted a picture of “the Sinister Tradition,” a book detailing O9A views.
                    Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                    For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                    Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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                    • I have a friend who was unsuccessfully recruited for white supremacy while he was in the Regular Army. He was shocked at how openly people talked about it. These were not soldiers who tried to recruit him.

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                      • https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/27/us/wi...ion/index.html
                        We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

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                        • Tucker's rhetoric has increasingly extreme.


                          Tucker Carlson's top writer resigns after secretly posting racist and sexist remarks in online forum



                          The top writer for Fox News host Tucker Carlson has for years been using a pseudonym to post bigoted remarks on an online forum that is a hotbed for racist, sexist, and other offensive content, CNN Business learned this week.

                          Just this week, the writer, Blake Neff, responded to a thread started by another user in 2018 with the subject line, "Would u let a JET BLACK congo n****er do lasik eye surgery on u for 50% off?" Neff wrote, "I wouldn't get LASIK from an Asian for free, so no." (The subject line was not censored on the forum.) On June 5, Neff wrote, "Black doods staying inside playing Call of Duty is probably one of the biggest factors keeping crime down." On June 24, Neff commented, "Honestly given how tired black people always claim to be, maybe the real crisis is their lack of sleep." On June 26, Neff wrote that the only people who care about changing the name of the NFL's Washington Redskins are "white libs and their university-'educated' pets."

                          And over the course of five years, Neff has maintained a lengthy thread in which he has derided a woman and posted information about her dating life that has invited other users to mock her and invade her privacy. There has at times also been overlap between some material he posted or saw on the forum and Carlson's show.

                          More recently, in February 2020, Neff called Mormonism "an inherently cucky religion." On June 5, a user on the forum commented in a thread, "Didn't Michael Brown rob a store and attack a police officer? And wasn't [George Floyd] a piece of shit with a long criminal record? Jfc libs." Another person commented, "It doesn't matter to these people." Neff then replied, "It does. The violent criminals are even MORE heroic." On June 16, a user started a separate thread about a video showing a Black man assaulting an elderly white woman in New York. Neff commented on the thread, "And to think, if this guy got killed in some freak incident while being arrested, we'd have to endure at least three funerals in his honor."
                          https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/10/media...eff/index.html

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                          • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                            Tucker's rhetoric has increasingly extreme.


                            Tucker Carlson's top writer resigns after secretly posting racist and sexist remarks in online forum





                            https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/10/media...eff/index.html
                            Cucky? I looked it up....Cucky is a small white chicken. Guilty as charged!

                            http://info.sonicretro.org/Cucky

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                            • Why do all these Mo's throw in with white supremacists? They don't love you, Walter.


                              On another note, I am 0% surprised to hear that Tucker Carlson's writer is a racist POS. Anybody who is surprised probably never watched Tucker Carlson.
                              "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                              • Right-Wing Domestic Terrorism Has Increased By More Than 300% Since Trump Took Office: Report


                                According to a recent report, deaths attributable to so-called “right-wing domestic terrorists” have increased by more than 300% since President Donald Trump took office in 2017.

                                A database compiled by the Type Media Center’s David Neiwert and based on government interpretations of ideological motivations showed that at least 87 people were “killed by far-right terrorists” during Trump’s first three years in office. That number swells to 145 dead in three years if the 58 people killed by Stephen Paddock during the Las Vegas massacre in October 2017 are added in.

                                The Type Media Center was formerly known as The Nation Institute and was previously attached to The Nation magazine.

                                From 2013 through 2016, “right-wing” terrorists in the United States killed some 46 people.

                                Conversely, Neiwert notes, only 17 people have died due to domestic Islamic terrorism over the past three years. Left-wing domestic terrorism barely registered during the time span; only four such deaths occurred in the past three years.

                                “The stuff about the Las Vegas killing is interesting because it shows how police literally can’t SEE right-wing ideology because it is naturalized as normal politics,” claimed The Nation‘s National-Affairs Correspondent Jeet Heer on Saturday.

                                According to Neiwert and others, there is every indication that Paddock was an anti-government, gun-rights zealot. Paraphrasing numerous acquaintances of the killer into a composite explanation of his ideology, Neiwert writes that Paddock “had a thing about guns and the Second Amendment and harbored a deep fear that the government would attempt to take them away.”

                                One such acquaintance said that he defended the Second Amendment “with an incredible degree of vigor.”

                                https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile...office-report/

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