Violence by White Supremicists on the rise

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  • frank ryan
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 12260

    #256
    Originally posted by Now who’s the dean? View Post
    Bumbling, anti-government white supremacist gun owners who the president of the US was egging on even though he knew what they were planning? Those the dumbasses you’re talking about?
    Two of them were Marine veterans:

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    • Non Sequitur
      Where did I put my bodkin
      • Nov 2008
      • 5773

      #257
      Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
      How exactly was the POTUS "egging" these guys on? Sounds like these losers didn't even like Drumpf...
      I think Trump tweeting out to Michigan residents that they should "liberate" themselves from stay-at-home orders would constitute "egging on". It sounds an awful lot like Trump telling Michigan residents to take matters into their own hands.
      "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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      • wapiti
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 2064

        #258
        Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
        I think Trump tweeting out to Michigan residents that they should "liberate" themselves from stay-at-home orders would constitute "egging on". It sounds an awful lot like Trump telling Michigan residents to take matters into their own hands.
        I love how several of you have painted these guys as white supremacists. There is no evidence that they were motivated by race at all.

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        • Now who’s the dean?
          Pretty Good Guy
          • Aug 2020
          • 567

          #259
          Originally posted by Now who’s the dean? View Post
          Bumbling, anti-government confederate flag flying gun owners who the president of the US was egging on even though he knew what they were planning? Those the dumbasses you’re talking about?
          Better?

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          • Non Sequitur
            Where did I put my bodkin
            • Nov 2008
            • 5773

            #260
            Originally posted by wapiti View Post
            I love how several of you have painted these guys as white supremacists. There is no evidence that they were motivated by race at all.
            I didn't paint them as white supremacists. I painted them as terrorists who disagreed with Governor Whitmer's stay-at-home orders and decided to take matters into their own hands, taking their cue from Trump who told Michigan residents to liberate themselves from Governor Whitmer's stay-at-home orders. This is a whole different group of terrorists that Trump is coddling.
            "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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            • frank ryan
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 12260

              #261
              Originally posted by Non Sequitur View Post
              I didn't paint them as white supremacists. I painted them as terrorists who disagreed with Governor Whitmer's stay-at-home orders and decided to take matters into their own hands, taking their cue from Trump who told Michigan residents to liberate themselves from Governor Whitmer's stay-at-home orders. This is a whole different group of terrorists that Trump is coddling.
              These guys were white supremacists. Let's be real. The whole militia/"patriot" movement is intermarried with that shit. From the article wapi didn't read:

              Morrison is facing state charges for his alleged role in the plot and is alleged to be one of the founding members of the Wolverine Watchmen. He is known by the moniker the Boogaloo Bunyan, the Detroit Free Press reported.

              The boogaloo movement started on the internet is linked to neo-Nazis and white supremacists seeking to capitalize on current unrest in the nation to start a second civil war, USA Today reported.

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              • frank ryan
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 12260

                #262
                Could've posted this in one of the Trump threads as there is so much convergence between and his fascist fanboys.

                White supremacists planned an attack on the US power grid if Trump lost the election, a mistakenly unsealed FBI affidavit reveals

                White supremacists plotted to attack power stations in the southeastern US, and an Ohio teenager who allegedly shared the plan said he wanted the group to be "operational" on a fast-tracked timeline if President Donald Trump were to lose his re-election bid, the FBI alleges in an affidavit that was mistakenly unsealed.

                The teen was in a text group with more than a dozen people in the fall of 2019 when he introduced the idea of saving money to buy a ranch where they could participate in militant training, according to the affidavit, which was filed under seal along with a search warrant application in Wisconsin's Eastern U.S. District Court in March. The documents were inadvertently unsealed last week before the mistake was discovered and they were quickly sealed again.

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                • All-American
                  Right, as Usual
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 15638

                  #263
                  My first thought when I saw this in the recent feed was, what a strange title for the game-day thread.
                  τὸν ἥλιον ἀνατέλλοντα πλείονες ἢ δυόμενον προσκυνοῦσιν

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                  • Non Sequitur
                    Where did I put my bodkin
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 5773

                    #264
                    Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                    Could've posted this in one of the Trump threads as there is so much convergence between and his fascist fanboys.

                    White supremacists planned an attack on the US power grid if Trump lost the election, a mistakenly unsealed FBI affidavit reveals




                    https://www.businessinsider.com/whit...rce=reddit.com
                    I literally LOL'd at this line from the article:

                    "The affidavit says the Ohio teen put Nazi flags in his room, but his mother told him to take them down."
                    "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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                    • frank ryan
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 12260

                      #265
                      Hopefully under Biden this threat will be treated like the major national security threat it is and has been.

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                      • frank ryan
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 12260

                        #266
                        I've posted this or similar articles in the past. This merits revisiting:

                        FBI warned of white supremacists in law enforcement 10 years ago. Has anything changed?



                        But even if there aren’t hard statistics, the problem of racial bias among police isn’t new. In fact, it’s been a concern of the FBI for at least a decade. Exactly 10 years ago this week, the FBI warned of the potential consequences — including bias — of white supremacist groups infiltrating local and state law enforcement, indicating it was a significant threat to national security.

                        In the 2006 bulletin, the FBI detailed the threat of white nationalists and skinheads infiltrating police in order to disrupt investigations against fellow members and recruit other supremacists. The bulletin was released during a period of scandal for many law enforcement agencies throughout the country, including a neo-Nazi gang formed by members of the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department who harassed black and Latino communities. Similar investigations revealed officers and entire agencies with hate group ties in Illinois, Ohio and Texas.

                        Much of the bulletin has been redacted, but in it, the FBI identified white supremacists in law enforcement as a concern, because of their access to both “restricted areas vulnerable to sabotage” and elected officials or people who could be seen as “potential targets for violence.” The memo also warned of “ghost skins,” hate group members who don’t overtly display their beliefs in order to “blend into society and covertly advance white supremacist causes.”

                        “At least one white supremacist group has reportedly encouraged ghost skins to seek positions in law enforcement for the capability of alerting skinhead crews of pending investigative action against them,” the report read.

                        Problems with white supremacists in law enforcement have surfaced since that report. In 2014, two Florida officers — including a deputy police chief — were fired after an FBI informant outed them as members of the Ku Klux Klan. It marked the second time within five years that the agency uncovered an officer’s membership in the KKK. Several agencies nationwide have also launched investigations into personnel who may not be formal hate group members, but face allegations of race-based misconduct.
                        In 2006, the FBI warned that white supremacists infiltrating local and state law enforcement posed a threat to national security. Some are asking, what's been done to curb the trend in the decade since?

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                        • BlueK
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 7126

                          #267
                          There seems to have been a significant presence of white supremacists at the Capitol attack.

                          https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/09/us/ca...soh/index.html
                          Last edited by BlueK; 01-10-2021, 07:34 AM.

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                          • frank ryan
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 12260

                            #268
                            Neo-Nazis Ask Military to Join Their Cause, Call For Assassinations



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                            While watching news of the violent insurrection on TV last week, retired General Vincent K. Brooks, a four-star general and former head of U.S. forces in Korea, was struck by the apparent number of veterans he witnessed storm the Capitol in real time. “All of those things were evident in that crowd,” he told VICE News, noting the military badges and symbols he saw attached to the jackets, shirts and hats of the Trump supporters, especially when coupled with military grade tactical equipment. “It was disconcerting.”

                            “So many of these people that we saw were apparently former military who have taken a very extreme view of the security of the United States and the political dynamics that are impacting it,” he said. “Far too many of them were veterans. And that was so disappointing.”

                            As the FBI warns of armed groups threatening state capitals across the country and the National Guard is deploying to Washington D.C. in preparation for the inauguration of President-elect Joe Biden, accelerationist neo-Nazis who supported last week’s President Donald Trump-incited insurrection are calling for targeted killings and advocating for members of the military—charged with protecting one of the most fundamental events in American democracy—to turn to their side.

                            Posts circulating on Telegram, the online ecosystem of choice among militant neo-Nazis, urge followers to locate the addresses of politicians in Congress and assassinate them.
                            NewsNeo-Nazis Boast About Participation In Capitol Hill Invasion


                            “Strike the iron while it's hot. The rats have addresses,” reads one post, viewed over a thousand times from a popular account with over 4,000 followers. Broadly speaking, the accelerationist movement believes acts of violence, like the events on Capitol Hill last week, will hasten the collapse of the U.S. government and force it into a standoff with an emergent insurgency led by far-right terrorists.

                            “You know of some in your area. Do your bit. It will snowball,” reads the post.

                            These posters hope that active-duty service members deployed to protect the inauguration and the various state capitals in the coming days switch sides. The same Telegram account—which VICE News will not name to avoid amplification—is trying to appeal to the National Guard, imploring members to join the cause.

                            Another Telegram account, with well over 2,000 subscribers, urged people to murder the families of Congresspeople and to target state capitols with localized, armed militias. “Do not meet up with ‘internet friends’ for this,” said a post viewed by users over 7,000 times. “Gather your local trusted militia and do what you must to save this country and our people from their hellish claws that clamp down on the souls of us all.”

                            ​​​​​​https://www.vice.com/en/article/88ad...assassinations

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                            • Non Sequitur
                              Where did I put my bodkin
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 5773

                              #269
                              Yeah, I know we're a country of laws, and we believe in free speech and due process, blah, blah, blah, but the NSA can tell us in half a minute who these people are, where they live and on what street corner they're currently standing. Don't we have some off the books goon squads we can deploy to end these people?
                              "The mind is not a boomerang. If you throw it too far it will not come back." ~ Tom McGuane

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                              • Uncle Ted
                                The Big 12 money shot.
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 28853

                                #270




                                Yeah, who cares about Portland anyway? Just let the Antifa kids burn it.
                                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
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                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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