Utah Senator Mitt Romney Thread

[Eddie]

The thing is Eddie, Lee isn't seen as any sort of rival to Trump because while he might have voted against some of his legislative goals some times he never opposed Trump in any meaningful way. Romney voted to impeach the man twice, and Lee compared him to Capt. Moroni. They aren't really close at all.

The GOP is not over Trumpism or Qanon by a long-shot. Trumpism is still the governing force in the GOP. What a joke, and a national shame. God bless people like Romney and Cheney who put country before party.

I get it - I understand one was calling Trump a grifter while the other was calling him Captain Moroni. But for people who tend to say they voted for Trump based on what he did and not based on what he said - there's a bit of a disconnect hear them cheer for Lee and boo Mitt when one's voting record supported Trump's agenda and the other's voting record did not.

For the record - I take failure of the censure of Mitt passing at the Utah state GOP convention as a good sign that the entire GOP isn't driven by Trumpism. Though I acknowledge there is too much Trumpism in the GOP for my liking.

[Donuthole]

Mitt the lone Congress member not kowtowing to the Eagle forum in Utah:

Republican lawmakers once feared the group for its ability to quickly mobilize members through its formidable phone calling tree. The advent of social media has dampened some of that power in recent years. Yet Ruzicka’s reputation has not waned during her 31-year reign leading the respected conservative organization. How else to explain five of Utah’s six members of Congress showing up to bend the knee at the event? Sen. Mitt Romney was the lone holdout.

Keep it up, Mitt!

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics...KxpOe3N9rxrDG8

[myboynoah]

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[Donuthole]

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Twitter is underwhelmed by that response, not surprisingly. Amazing how the primary response of people who share Mitt's sentiment is "but what have you done about it!!??" As if Mitt is the judge, jury, and executioner on such an issue.

This tweet in response has me particularly confused:

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Mitt voted to convict Trump, right? What specifically is this guy referring to?

[PaloAltoCougar]

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Mitt voted to convict Trump, right? What specifically is this guy referring to?

I assume he's referring to Trump's first impeachment, which included two counts: abuse of power and obstruction of justice. Romney voted to convict on the first count, and to acquit on the second. Kind of dumb to criticize Romney for that, given that Mitt was the first senator in history to vote to convict a president of the same party.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Purity test culture. So stupid.

[myboynoah]

Yeah, give me a break. Have they not been paying attention?

Whatever. Mitt getting all saucy on the repub party dopes.

[Donuthole]

I assume he's referring to Trump's first impeachment, which included two counts: abuse of power and obstruction of justice. Romney voted to convict on the first count, and to acquit on the second. Kind of dumb to criticize Romney for that, given that Mitt was the first senator in history to vote to convict a president of the same party.

Ha. I had forgotten that was a separate impeachment trial (too many to keep track of!). Still, imagine being so caught up in your partisanship that you use that to make your point in the face of the subsequent, well, you know, historical act. That would be like bagging on Derek Fisher for not playing better defense on Tim Duncan's last shot in Game 5 of the 2004 Western Conference finals.

[myboynoah]

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[Jeff Lebowski]

This is encouraging.

https://www.ksl.com/article/50410509

The poll found 51% of Utah voters say Romney best represents their political and policy preferences, while 37% chose Trump. Another 12% picked neither.

and this is discouraging:

The results flipped among survey respondents who identified themselves as Republicans, with 51% saying Trump best represents them compared to 42% for Romney. Only 8% of Republicans named someone else.

[Applejack]

This is encouraging.

https://www.ksl.com/article/50410509



and this is discouraging:

Mitt isn’t going to survive a primary challenge. And six years ago I would’ve bet on mitt to be a senator for life.

[USUC]

Mitt isn’t going to survive a primary challenge. And six years ago I would’ve bet on mitt to be a senator for life.

Let's see who the primary challenger is before writing Mitt off. It also seems the Utah Dems strategy moving forward might be to vote for someone else besides the Dem candidate so you never know.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Let's see who the primary challenger is before writing Mitt off. It also seems the Utah Dems strategy moving forward might be to vote for someone else besides the Dem candidate so you never know.

Unless massive numbers of D voters switch to R to vote in the R primary (not likely) he will have an uphill fight.

But I am hoping the cult of Trump dies back enough between now and then that he will survive. But I am not holding my breath.

[USUC]

Unless massive numbers of D voters switch to R to vote in the R primary (not likely) he will have an uphill fight.

But I am hoping the cult of Trump dies back enough between now and then that he will survive. But I am not holding my breath.

Much of it will hinge on Trump's standing by the 2024 primaries. Trump has 2 more years to keep hold on the party. We are all assuming he jumps in the race again. If someone viable is bold enough to jump in as well and Trump starts to falter, then who knows what happens. I'm not sure DeSantis running instead of Trump helps Romney either though.

[Joe Public]

Romney is one of the bright spots of the Senate. What do Utahns not like?