Bloody hell. A sitting president cannot use the power of his office to coerce a foreign power to investigate his political rival. Especially not using help from his personal attorney. Whether that political rival "deserves it" or not is completely irrelevant to that fact.
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This is one thing Biden is guilty of. The video of him bragging withholding a billion dollars is his typical blowhard shtick.Originally posted by falafel View PostDoes anyone else know what corrupt Ukrainian officials Biden was able to get fired for his $1B? I hope it was more than just the one prosecutor."...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
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Umm nobody is saying that if Biden was corrupt that he shouldn’t answer for it. What we are talking about is the corruption of our president. The corruption of others does not excuse the corruption of the leader of the free world.Originally posted by wapiti View PostWhy is Biden getting a pass for this obvious corruption?
I actually like that this may exclude Biden from a successful campaign. GTFO.
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Oh, so Drumpf told the Ukrainian pres he was going to withdraw a billion dollars in loan guarantees if he didn’t investigate possible corruption? Did he even get his own crackhead, dumbass son a seat on a foreign company’s board and fly him to and from that foreign country on the government’s dime too? Good thing Drumpf won’t be Warren’s VP pick. She might have to maybe look into that. LOL.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostBloody hell. A sitting president cannot use the power of his office to coerce a foreign power to investigate his political rival. Especially not using help from his personal attorney. Whether that political rival "deserves it" or not is completely irrelevant to that fact.
Drumpf should just wire tap Biden’s campaign office instead. His son was on the board of a foreign company so there is plenty justification to do so. Payback is a b*tch!
Watching the Dems fall all over themselves is priceless. (Did you watch the Warren video above?) Great entertainment.
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All this talk from the Dems about impeachment has to be hurting the Drumpf campaign... WTF!
Anyone have the numbers for the Biden campaign?
If the Dems were smart they would tell Biden to put his teeth back in and withdraw from the race. And then make Tulsi Gabbard their candidate. Of course, this will never happen because the Dems are not smart. So maybe the Dems will not only lose the presidential election but the house as well. What a bunch of dummies."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostThis is one thing Biden is guilty of. The video of him bragging withholding a billion dollars is his typical blowhard shtick.
Here is a nice summary of every thing for those of you that need to catch up...
But, but Drumpf pressured the Ukrainian President, right? WRONGJoe Biden, the former Vice President of the United States has just been caught extorting Ukraine to keep his son out of trouble. His son, Hunter Biden, who was kicked out of the Navy in 2014 for cocaine violations and arrests, is not a man of integrity. This is the same man that cheated on his wife, with his dead brothers widow. Just a few weeks after his Navy discharge, and also in 2014, despite having absolutely no experience, Hunter gets a 600k per year job (that’s 50k per MONTH!) on the Board of a Ukraine energy firm. This despite having no experience in the the energy sector and not knowing how to speak a word of the languages used in Ukraine. After a short period of time, Ukraine has had enough of him. They appoint a prosecutor to go after him for alleged crimes and do what prosecutors do. This doesn’t sit well with Joe Biden. Not at all. Joe Biden, while still Vice President, calls Ukraine and tells them that if the Prosecutor is not fired immediately, the United States will not be sending them the 1 BILLION dollars in aid that we normally send them. Now think about that? This is YOUR tax dollars that he’s using as leverage to stop a criminal investigation on his son. That’s a huge problem. Of course Ukraine immediately fires the prosecutor because they desperately need the aid that the United States provides. Also, Ukraine has to rehire New prosecutor (get ready for this) that Biden himself has to approve. Is this not Crazy!
Now fast forward to present time. President Trump during a recent phone call speaks to the new Ukraine President congratulating him on his win. During the conversation President Trump mentions Biden. Alleging that he has possibly committed a crime. The Ukraine President says that he is aware and has been wanting to talk with President Trump about that. How does President Trump know about this? Because Biden is very stupid and talks about doing exactly just that during a recorded video. It’s in the video that President Trump tweeted out personally on his Twitter feed yesterday. Now of course before President Trump tweeted this, Biden when questioned about it, played dumb. He also lied and said he has never spoken to his son about any of his son’s out of country business adventures. He even gets mad at the reporter and starts yelling that he should not be investigated, but that Trump should be.
So a “whistleblower” (it was just released that his lawyer, who organize the whistleblower’s statement, donated to Biden’s presidential campaign) goes to the press (The New York Times) and says Trump called the Ukraine President and that he 8 separate times, in a hostile phone call, pressured the Ukraine President into investigating Hunter Biden and Joe Biden for doing the above mentioned. The Ukraine President states that he very much remembers the phone call and that it was a very pleasant phone call and President Trump absolutely did not pressure him or threaten to or deprive his country of anything. He also acknowledged that his government was threatened by Joe Biden by withholding aid if the Biden issue wasn’t dropped.
But oddly enough, at least for the first few days, the press didn’t mention the sins of Joe and Hunter. And in the New York Times piece about the “whistleblower”, if you read past the headline, and towards the very end of the story, you’ll see that the The New York Times slips in the fact that the “whistleblower” DOESN’T have any direct knowledge of the phone call and didn’t hear it personally. Seems like a handy piece of information to have upfront, doesn’t it? The person saying this happened never heard it themselves! That’s not a whistleblower, that’s gossip. But what does Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi do with that gossip? She foams at the mouth and calls a press conference saying that she is launching an impeachment inquiry against President Trump. An impeachment inquiry! Over unverified gossip! Does that Sound desperate to you? She accuses President Trump, based on information from said “whistleblower” who never heard any part of the phone conversation, of threatening to withhold military support to Ukraine unless the investigation into the Biden’s is resumed. She is accusing the President of a quid pro quo. Which is EXACTLY what Joe Biden did. The only problem is that no such thing happened with President Trump. She held that press conference, yesterday, BEFORE SHE OR ANYONE ELSE, HAD POSSESSION OR EVEN READ THE DAMN CONVERSATION TRANSCRIPT!
President Trump approved the White House to release an unedited, Non-redacted transcript of the entire phone conversation. That’s what a victim does, not criminal. And guess what? They did just that today. And again guess what? It’s nothing like what was reported. I read it. It’s not even close. During the conversation President Trump says Joe Biden has recently been bragging about what he did for Hunter and that a lot of people in America are concerned about it. He he wants to find out what happened. Totally within his right as an American President. The (newly elected) Ukraine President tells President Trump on the phone that he’s putting together a cabinet and will be selecting a team to investigate the claim. That’s it, nothing hostile, no mention or allegation at all of President Trump threatening to withholding military aide like the media and Pelosi said. President Trump didn’t keep bringing it up 8 times.
Now that the White House released the phone call, Nancy Pelosi and the rest of her posse should be embarrassed for jumping the gun with the announcement of an impeachment inquiry. Biden, who even as a former Vice President, can still be impeached (would lose all pension and benefits among other things) should step out of the presidential race and await his fate.
This is actual political corruption. Criminal political corruption. Not just an ethics violation. And it absolutely should be dealt with at the highest level of our courts.
So did President Trump have a right to ask Ukraine to help look into a possible matter of corruption involving them and Vice President Joe Biden? Absolutely. Treaty 106-16 is a document signed and passed in 1999 that allows for Ukraine to cooperate with mutual legal assistance on any matters with the United States.
FUN FACT: Joe Biden was even in that Congress.
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"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
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You are the whatabout king, UT."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
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The great thing about Ted’s #whatabout_______ is it’s easy update features. Just once every election cycle! Or, until the preferred dem nominee crashes.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post#whataboutbiden
You are the whatabout king, UT."...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
"You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
- SeattleUte
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Trump moved his records of conversations with foreign leaders onto a separate network
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/wh...ort-2019-09-26The whistleblower complaint that focused on President Donald Trump’s request to Ukraine’s government to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden also alleges White House officials moved the records of some of Trump’s communications with foreign officials onto a separate computer network.
First reported by the Washington Post and now evident as the whistleblower complaint was publicly released, the complaint alleged the Trump transcript with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was placed on a computer system directly managed by the National Security Council Directorate for Intelligence Programs.
The whistleblower cited officials he or she spoke with that this not the first time a presidential transcript was placed into the system “solely for the purpose of protecting politically sensitive — rather than national security sensitive — information.”
The complaint more broadly alleges Trump is using the power of his office to solicit foreign interference in the U.S. election.
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UT, it is clear, unless snopes says it, he ain't going to believe it.Originally posted by Northwestcoug View PostWow Ted, that’s more links than your usual posts have! But I have to decline. I’m gonna go out on a limb and admit that although he seems like a rather unsavory character, the only available evidence that the elder Biden muscled Ukraine for his protection is of your typical tinfoil variety.
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Here is a nice writeup on Hunter Biden in the New Yorker... I didn't know some chinese dude bribed the crackhead with a 2.8-carat diamond:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...thers-campaignWill Hunter Biden Jeopardize His Father’s Campaign?
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One of Kathleen’s motions contains a reference to “a large diamond” that had come into Hunter’s possession. The motion seems to imply that it was one of Hunter’s “personal indulgences.” When I asked him about it, he told me that he had been given the diamond by the Chinese energy tycoon Ye Jianming, who was trying to make connections in Washington among prominent Democrats and Republicans, and whom he had met in the middle of the divorce.
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Hunter offered to use his contacts to help identify investment opportunities for Ye’s company, CEFC China Energy, in liquefied-natural-gas projects in the United States. After the dinner, Ye sent a 2.8-carat diamond to Hunter’s hotel room with a card thanking him for their meeting. “I was, like, Oh, my God,” Hunter said. (In Kathleen’s court motion, the diamond is estimated to be worth eighty thousand dollars. Hunter said he believes the value is closer to ten thousand.) When I asked him if he thought the diamond was intended as a bribe, he said no
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The Dems, if they were smart, would stop trying to defend the Bidens and encourage Joe to drop out. They are toxic to Dems.
FoxNews is having a field day with this Biden stuff... It can't be avoided.

No wonder folks are voting with their wallets and dumping money into the Drumpf campaign. When do the next poll numbers come out?
Last edited by Uncle Ted; 09-26-2019, 07:16 AM."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Thanks for letting us know the ship isn't sinking!Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostHere is a nice writeup on Hunter Biden in the New Yorker... I didn't know some chinese dude bribed the crackhead with a 2.8-carat diamond:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...thers-campaign
The Dems, if they were smart, would stop trying to defend the Bidens and encourage Joe to drop out. They are toxic to Dems.
FoxNews is having a field day with this Biden stuff... It can't be avoided.

No wonder folks are voting with their wallets and dumping money into the Drumpf campaign. When do the next poll numbers come out?

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But on this issue, Biden's conduct is actually material.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post#whataboutbiden
You are the whatabout king, UT.Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
Dig your own grave, and save!
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