Impeaching Trump: Make America Sane Again

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  • frank ryan
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 12347

    #391
    Originally posted by creekster View Post
    It is more an expression of disappointment than a compliment, but you can take it however you want.

    You are betraying your education by such asinine comments. Regardless of whether you think anyone has a history of being wrong, your response does nothing more than increase polarization, avoid the issue and cast a crass hue over the thread. Maybe this is what you want, and your history of histrionic and crude posts suggests so, but that doesn't mean you should post it. IF there is anything that the poitical dialog in this country needs it is less hyperbole and crudities, not more.

    I will also add that here I think Wapiti is spot on. After spending a year or more claiming to possess, not just believe but actually possess, hard documentation of russian collusive involvement with the Trump Administration, and then showing an empty hand when Mueller releases his report, it may be that Schiff is not the best face to put on this most recent claim. But, rather than comment on this idea, i guess we could just accuse each of other of fellating whoever we are accused of supporting.
    It's almost like you read Barr's bullshit pre-emptive letter regarding Mueller's report and stopped there. If so, I can see how you might be less concerned than you otherwise ought to be.

    Regardless, this issue seems pretty clear cut. You have an intelligence operative trying to go about things the right way and whistleblow legally. It's considered urgent to our national security, Barr's very partisan and very aggressive DOJ assumes some newer authority over that process to protect Trump.

    It's ugly and frightening.
    Last edited by frank ryan; 09-21-2019, 06:49 AM.

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    • wapiti
      Junior Member
      • Apr 2012
      • 2064

      #392
      Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
      It's almost like you read Barr's bullshit pre-emptive letter regarding Mueller's report and stopped there. If so, I can see how you might be less concerned than you otherwise ought to be.

      Regardless, this issue seems pretty clear cut. You have an intelligence opportunity trying to go about things the right way and whistleblow legally. It's considered urgent to our national security, Barr's very partisan and very aggressive DOJ assumes some newer authority over that process to protect Trump.

      It's ugly and frightening.
      The infrastructure to impede this is only in place because of the number of times the dems have cried wolf. But let it play out, this doesn't look good for the president.

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      • Uncle Ted
        The Big 12 money shot.
        • Apr 2010
        • 28853

        #393
        Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
        Hey everyone in Congress, can we impeach him now? Please?

        https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-d...er-11568993176
        Investigate Drumpf for telling the Ukraine President to look at the possible corruption by Biden and his son? Yeah, I agree. Congress should do a deep dive investigation with the Ukrainians on all of this. If Biden is taking his meds and they catch him on one of his better days they might even get an accurate answer out of him.
        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • Northwestcoug
          Cocked and Loaded
          • May 2011
          • 18012

          #394
          Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
          Investigate Drumpf for telling the Ukraine President to look at the possible corruption by Biden and his son? Yeah, I agree. Congress should do a deep dive investigation with the Ukrainians on all of this. If Biden is taking his meds and they catch him on one of his better days they might even get an accurate answer out of him.
          What, no links? I hovered over your text 3 times just to make sure!

          Of course, there is a chance that something nefarious was going on with Biden and Ukraine. But all available current evidence points to this being a nothingburger.
          "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
          "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
          - SeattleUte

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          • Sleeping in EQ
            Philosopher of Men
            • Nov 2008
            • 4188

            #395
            I'm reading The Federalist.

            The warnings against a Trump-like character and our hack media (demagogues all, including the late night comedians) are strong and frequent.
            We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

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            • frank ryan
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 12347

              #396
              Originally posted by Sleeping in EQ View Post
              I'm reading The Federalist.

              The warnings against a Trump-like character and our hack media (demagogues all, including the late night comedians) are strong and frequent.
              If you talking about main stream journalists and investigative journalists than I’m not with you. Pushing responsibility for Trump on the media is wearing a bit thin. They’ve been right with their reporting the majority of the time. The cries of fake news, and his supporters willingness to believe them are dangerous. We’ve had press attacked at his events. A reported was attacked by the GOP congressman from Montana.

              Trump is as shitty as has been reported.

              If you are talking about infotainers than they’re generally useless and too many get their news exclusively from them. Which is definitely a huge problems.

              As for late night hosts, thank God we have satire.
              Last edited by frank ryan; 09-21-2019, 09:17 AM.

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              • Sleeping in EQ
                Philosopher of Men
                • Nov 2008
                • 4188

                #397
                Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                If you talking about main stream journalists and investigative journalists than I’m not with you. Pushing responsibility for Trump on the media is wearing a bit thin. They’ve been right with their reporting the majority of the time. The cries of fake news, and his supporters willingness to believe them are dangerous. We’ve had press attacked at his events. A reported was attacked by the GOP congressman from Montana.

                Trump is as shitty as has been reported.

                If you are talking about infotainers than they’re generally useless and too many get their news exclusively from them. Which is definitely a huge problems.

                As for late night hosts, thank God we have satire.
                Just go read The Federalist. I think you'll enjoy it.
                We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

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                • frank ryan
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 12347

                  #398
                  Originally posted by Sleeping in EQ View Post
                  Just go read The Federalist. I think you'll enjoy it.
                  Ok, I’ll put it on my list.

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                  • PaloAltoCougar
                    Semper infra dignitatem
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 16935

                    #399
                    Originally posted by Sleeping in EQ View Post
                    I'm reading The Federalist.

                    The warnings against a Trump-like character and our hack media (demagogues all, including the late night comedians) are strong and frequent.
                    Agreed. Many of the essays are also instructive as to why the Constitution stands for much more than mere majoritarianism, which many believe is all that matters.

                    Fun (if egocentric) fact: My first sports board moniker, predating CB, CG, and CS, was Publius.

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                    • cowboy
                      Homer Weems
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 5740

                      #400
                      Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                      Agreed. Many of the essays are also instructive as to why the Constitution stands for much more than mere majoritarianism, which many believe is all that matters.

                      Fun (if egocentric) fact: My first sports board moniker, predating CB, CG, and CS, was Publius.
                      This is a very important concept that I wish more civics teachers would emphasize. It's especially important when majorities are as slim as they are in this era. Admittedly, it's more important to Red Staters like me than others.
                      Last edited by cowboy; 09-22-2019, 07:22 AM.
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                      October sky the Four Horsemen rode again"
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                      • Sleeping in EQ
                        Philosopher of Men
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 4188

                        #401
                        Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post
                        Agreed. Many of the essays are also instructive as to why the Constitution stands for much more than mere majoritarianism, which many believe is all that matters.

                        Fun (if egocentric) fact: My first sports board moniker, predating CB, CG, and CS, was Publius.
                        I'm enjoying The Federalist, so much so that although I haven't finished it yet, I'm often citing and recommending it.

                        Also, from now on I will think of you as a composite of Madison, Hamilton, and Jay.

                        We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

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                        • imanihonjin
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 3772

                          #402
                          Trump is authorizing the release of a full, unredacted transcript of the call under question with the President of Ukraine.

                          https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/24/trum...aine-call.html

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                          • Uncle Ted
                            The Big 12 money shot.
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 28853

                            #403
                            Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
                            Trump is authorizing the release of a full, unredacted transcript of the call under question with the President of Ukraine.

                            https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/24/trum...aine-call.html
                            Good... maybe it will be the smoking gun to throw Biden and his dumbass son in jail.
                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • Commando
                              Explosivo
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 20748

                              #404
                              Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                              Good... maybe it will be the smoking gun to throw Biden and his dumbass son in jail.
                              PROBABLY!!!
                              "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                              • Uncle Ted
                                The Big 12 money shot.
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 28853

                                #405
                                Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                                Ok, I’ll put it on my list.
                                Here is a good article to start off with...

                                New York Times Kavanaugh Reporter Told Source What To Say

                                Year-old texts contained in a Senate Judiciary Committee report show that New York Times reporter Robin Pogrebin engaged in questionable journalistic tactics to shape a false narrative against Kavanaugh by telling a source what to say and by asking sources to confirm information she herself had given them. And despite including a highly opinionated discussion of the text exchange in their book, the authors never admitted that Pogrebin was a key player in the exchanges.
                                [...]
                                Old texts show NYT reporter Robin Pogrebin engaged in questionable journalistic tactics to shape a false narrative against Kavanaugh.


                                LOL@NYTimes
                                "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                                "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                                "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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