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  • The cynic in me sees this as a move to ensure Trump get sympathy and momentum with the base and is the candidate running in 2024. This was a winning strategy for Dems last in 2022 and it will probably be a winning strategy again. But it makes the country worse.

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    • Originally posted by USUC View Post
      The cynic in me sees this as a move to ensure Trump get sympathy and momentum with the base and is the candidate running in 2024. This was a winning strategy for Dems last in 2022 and it will probably be a winning strategy again. But it makes the country worse.
      The January 6th stuff, classified documents, and voter fraud case in Georgia is even worse for him and much more likely to stick and derail him. Those indictments are coming soon. The special prosecutor is winning every ruling and getting damning grand jury testimony from everyone who was close to Trump. It's progressing a lot faster than almost anyone would have thought.

      Setting the precedent that insane presidents can do anything they want, even trying to illegally overturn an election, including through violence, and totally getting away with it legally, makes the country worse. Unfortunate that we've gotten here, but he crossed so many dangerous lines that we just can't have it and hope to always remain free. Enough is enough.
      Last edited by BlueK; 03-30-2023, 08:29 PM.

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      • This will clinch the nomination for him. But no way in hell he wins the general.
        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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        • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
          This will clinch the nomination for him. But no way in hell he wins the general.
          Especially if MAGA nutjobs get violent. That won't go over well with anyone independent or moderate.

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          • https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidAFre...C92YaiicgtAAAA

            DeSantis is such a tool bag.

            A little sprinkle of antisemitism and a wink at his contempt for the rule of law.

            This is the next guy up?

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            • Originally posted by fusnik View Post
              https://mobile.twitter.com/DavidAFre...C92YaiicgtAAAA

              DeSantis is such a tool bag.

              A little sprinkle of antisemitism and a wink at his contempt for the rule of law.

              This is the next guy up?
              desantis is just a younger, smarter version of trump. he is not a good person.
              I'm like LeBron James.
              -mpfunk

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              • Id take trump as nominee over him. thankfully he will flame out when he sees trumpers have no loyalty to him

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                • Originally posted by BlueK View Post

                  The January 6th stuff, classified documents, and voter fraud case in Georgia is even worse for him and much more likely to stick and derail him. Those indictments are coming soon. The special prosecutor is winning every ruling and getting damning grand jury testimony from everyone who was close to Trump. It's progressing a lot faster than almost anyone would have thought.

                  Setting the precedent that insane presidents can do anything they want, even trying to illegally overturn an election, including through violence, and totally getting away with it legally, makes the country worse. Unfortunate that we've gotten here, but he crossed so many dangerous lines that we just can't have it and hope to always remain free. Enough is enough.
                  derail him for who? not 50+% of the base

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                  • Ted Cruz weighs in.

                    It was 2016, but he is a man of principle so I am sure he feels this way today.

                    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                    • Originally posted by Maximus View Post

                      derail him for who? not 50+% of the base
                      Yeah, good point. His worshippers aren't going to give up their devotion. I'm Just saying what is coming for him from the other cases is even worse for him. I also don't think he can win a general election.

                      But even with this NY case the indictment has not been unsealed yet. We'll see but I am guessing it will contain more than just charges related to Stormy Daniels or campaign finance. There could be lots of other tax evasion and fraud type stuff in there as well.
                      Last edited by BlueK; 03-31-2023, 10:35 AM.

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                      • "...you pointy-headed autopsy nerd. Do you think it's possible for you to post without using words like "hilarious," "absurd," "canard," and "truther"? Your bare assertions do not make it so. Maybe your reasoning is too stunted and your vocabulary is too limited to go without these epithets."
                        "You are an intemperate, unscientific poster who makes light of very serious matters.”
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                        • I'm like LeBron James.
                          -mpfunk

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                          • Originally posted by BlueK View Post

                            Yeah, good point. His worshippers aren't going to give up their devotion. I'm Just saying what is coming for him from the other cases is even worse for him. I also don't think he can win a general election.

                            But even with this NY case the indictment has not been unsealed yet. We'll see but I am guessing it will contain more than just charges related to Stormy Daniels or campaign finance. There could be lots of other tax evasion and fraud type stuff in there as well.
                            Supposedly there are 2,000 counts in the indictment.
                            Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                            Dig your own grave, and save!

                            "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

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                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
                              I love that JFK is in there. These adulterers have to stick together I guess.
                              Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                              Dig your own grave, and save!

                              "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                              "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                              GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                              • Is Asa Hutchinson the only candidate who hasn’t called this a scam?

                                A-Hutch 2024!!!!

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