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  • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
    I read the contrarian The Nation article you posted. It was an underwhelming opinion piece. I don't buy the whistleblower theory, and I certainly don't buy the Seth Rich bullshit. I realize you're glad Trump won and that likely influences your feelings on the matter.
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    • Originally posted by falafel View Post
      Frank, you're kind of a broken record on this issue. I'm no Trump apologist (I voted for Grandma Clinton), but each time you go on one of these rants, the best you can do is point to examples of circumstantial evidence. Creekster doesn't need any help in this argument, but I just can't see any concrete proof in any of the things you've posted that show that Trump colluded with Russia or that it had any effect on the election. And its been a while now -- don't you think there should be something more than "Manafort has a house in Russia!"?
      It's more than "Manafort has a house in Russia," ffs.https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.6404aedc04c8

      Do you really think Mueller is just twiddling his thumbs? I said there is plenty of circumstantial evidence, and I stand by it.

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      • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
        It's more than "Manafort has a house in Russia," ffs.https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.6404aedc04c8

        Do you really think Mueller is just twiddling his thumbs? I said there is plenty of circumstantial evidence, and I stand by it.
        The problem is, you're asking all of us to make leaps from circumstantial evidence to proof, a leap you apparently took a long time ago. You may very well be right, but things like a search of man's house and the appointment of a special prosecutor do not = proof of anything. Smoke, not fire.
        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

        Dig your own grave, and save!

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        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • Originally posted by falafel View Post
          The problem is, you're asking all of us to make leaps from circumstantial evidence to proof, a leap you apparently took a long time ago. You may very well be right, but things like a search of man's house and the appointment of a special prosecutor do not = proof of anything. Smoke, not fire.
          There is a fuck-ton of smoke. Creekster harangued and badgered so I shared my opinion.

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          • LOL. Trump now says he won't rule out a military option in Venezuela. General Kelly needs to lock this guy in the oval office and take away his internet access.

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            • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
              There is a fuck-ton of smoke.
              FTR, how much is that? 2500 lbs? 3000 lbs?
              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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              • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                FTR, how much is that? 2500 lbs? 3000 lbs?
                More

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                • You thought that was haranguing and badgering? Hmmmm. I just wanted to see your claimed proof. Which you provided and it was as I thought it was.
                  PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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                  • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
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                    Whoa! That's more than the Utah inversion...
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                    • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                      It's more than "Manafort has a house in Russia," ffs.https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.6404aedc04c8

                      Do you really think Mueller is just twiddling his thumbs? I said there is plenty of circumstantial evidence, and I stand by it.
                      Sorry to beat a dead horse, frank. I didn't vote for Trump in either the primaries or the general election and I think he's an embarrassment to the office.

                      That said, there is a difference between suspect associations and illegal behavior. His many suspect associations are certainly worthy of investigation, but I am unaware of any publicly available concrete evidence tying Trump to illegal behavior. And the more conjecture without evidence I hear, the less likely I am to believe additional conjecture. Kind of like the boy who cried wolf.

                      As for the election tampering charges, it's totally believable to me that Clinton was just not the right candidate for the moment, and ran a very poor campaign.

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                      • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                        I read the contrarian The Nation article you posted. It was an underwhelming opinion piece. I don't buy the whistleblower theory, and I certainly don't buy the Seth Rich bullshit. I realize you're glad Trump won and that likely influences your feelings on the matter.
                        The Nation recently added an Editor's Note to the article:

                        Editor’s note: After publication, the Democratic National Committee contacted The Nation with a response, writing, “U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded the Russian government hacked the DNC in an attempt to interfere in the election. Any suggestion otherwise is false and is just another conspiracy theory like those pushed by Trump and his administration. It’s unfortunate that The Nation has decided to join the conspiracy theorists to push this narrative.”
                        DNC doubling down; they may yet turn into this decade's 9/11 truth nutters. If they do, Trump coasts in 2020.... then 8 years of Ivanka after that.
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                        • Things President Trump Has Condemned Other Than White Nationalists

                          http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...ionalists.html

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                          • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                            Things President Trump Has Condemned Other Than White Nationalists

                            http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...ionalists.html
                            amen

                            http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...sville-racists

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                            • Neo-Nazis praise Trump's response to Charlottesville


                              https://gizmodo.com/neo-nazis-praise...ium=socialflow

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                              • Here's an article about the POS ran over the counter-protestors.

                                https://www.buzzfeed.com/claudiakoer...Wkej#.nlqNKrNP

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