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  • Jeff Lebowski
    Corporate lackey for Jesus
    • Nov 2008
    • 69529

    #13336
    Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post

    I'm honestly struggling with the fusnik purity test. Must one oppose every statement, position, action or belief of a terrible human/politician?
    Lol. The goal posts keep moving.
    "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
    "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
    "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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    • PaloAltoCougar
      Semper infra dignitatem
      • Nov 2008
      • 16921

      #13337
      Originally posted by fusnik View Post

      I’m not naive, I understand that politicians will make tough decisions and can’t always vote perfectly.

      Trump was different. If you sat by and watched him or voted for his initiatives while he was acting like a buffoon I highly discount your ability to make rational decisions.
      The GOP legislation (like it or not) Romney voted for was not outside political norms--a President Jeb, Pence, Cruz () or other Republican would likely have offered similar bills. Romney voting for such things doesn't reflect the lack of integrity or rational thought that you seem to suggest. If one thinks a bill is worthwhile, but votes against it because its primary sponsor is a terrible person, then that's the person who's irrational. The only integrity litmus tests I can think of during the 116th Congress were the impeachment votes. Mitt passed; too many others failed.

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      • Art Vandelay
        Striving for mediocrity
        • Jul 2009
        • 10516

        #13338
        Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post

        I'm honestly struggling with the fusnik purity test. Must one oppose every statement, position, action or belief of a terrible human/politician?
        I've stayed at his hotel twice, once even got a free upgrade to the penthouse suite (due to dude in the adjoining room, I had reserved refusing to leave). Both visits were very nice. I'm don't think that should invalidate my TR,, but maybe a few Hail Marys should be required of me?

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        • fusnik
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 4475

          #13339
          Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post

          The GOP legislation (like it or not) Romney voted for was not outside political norms--a President Jeb, Pence, Cruz () or other Republican would likely have offered similar bills. Romney voting for such things doesn't reflect the lack of integrity or rational thought that you seem to suggest. If one thinks a bill is worthwhile, but votes against it because its primary sponsor is a terrible person, then that's the person who's irrational. The only integrity litmus tests I can think of during the 116th Congress were the impeachment votes. Mitt passed; too many others failed.
          I understand this argument, but it’s this exact sentiment that led us to this point now. Hey as long as Trump allows us to pass tax cuts and transform the judiciary we will let him drag us to the brink of internal destruction. They all thought they could grow the alligator in the bathtub and were shocked when the alligator started eating them.

          The GOP became unsupportable when after 5 years of supporting Trump, they jammed a SCOTUS nominee in 30 days right before an election and when they said, hey Trump is just exploring his legal options in regards to the election.

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          • myboynoah
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 21719

            #13340
            She's the devil, but this is funny.

            Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

            For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

            Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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            • Jeff Lebowski
              Corporate lackey for Jesus
              • Nov 2008
              • 69529

              #13341
              Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
              She's the devil, but this is funny.

              That's really funny.
              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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              • BlueK
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 7164

                #13342
                The Brittney Griner release pissed off Donald Trump.

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                • Maximus
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 6012

                  #13343
                  trump/Kanye

                  just create a new party. something about loyalty to the state?

                  https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-...kanye-fuentes/

                  They [Jewish leaders] should be ashamed of themselves. This lack of loyalty to their greatest friends and allies is why large numbers in Congress, and so many others, have stopped giving support to Israel,” he added.

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                  • frank ryan
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 12285

                    #13344
                    Re. Jan 6th. Mark Meadows got 100s of texts from GOP politicians. Honestly, they should be removed from congress at the very least.

                    The GOP remains a threat to democratic processes.

                    https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy79...ampaign=221213

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                    • Commando
                      Explosivo
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 20748

                      #13345
                      Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                      The Brittney Griner release pissed off Donald Trump.
                      Of course it did-- she's Black AND gay!
                      "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                      • BlueK
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 7164

                        #13346
                        Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                        Re. Jan 6th. Mark Meadows got 100s of texts from GOP politicians. Honestly, they should be removed from congress at the very least.

                        The GOP remains a threat to democratic processes.

                        https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy79...ampaign=221213
                        We live in a marxist dictatorship? Are all these people mentally ill?

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                        • fusnik
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 4475

                          #13347
                          Ron DeSantis is going full anti-vaxxer on Laura Ingraham's Fox News show


                          lol, imagine saying you’d vote for this clown.

                          To beat Trump he has to go hard right vs Trump on the vaccine to peel off a portion of the MAGA set. Insanity.

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                          • BlueK
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 7164

                            #13348
                            Originally posted by fusnik View Post
                            https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/s...63891742183429

                            lol, imagine saying you’d vote for this clown.

                            To beat Trump he has to go hard right vs Trump on the vaccine to peel off a portion of the MAGA set. Insanity.
                            Morning Joe is making fun of it this morning and playing a clip of DeSantis in 2021 telling everyone to get vaccinated.

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                            • Maximus
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 6012

                              #13349
                              Originally posted by fusnik View Post
                              https://mobile.twitter.com/atrupar/s...63891742183429

                              lol, imagine saying you’d vote for this clown.

                              To beat Trump he has to go hard right vs Trump on the vaccine to peel off a portion of the MAGA set. Insanity.
                              legit danger if he becomes president

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                              • frank ryan
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 12285

                                #13350
                                Originally posted by BlueK View Post

                                We live in a marxist dictatorship? Are all these people mentally ill?
                                No, dumb and corrupt.

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