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  • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
    When the invasion of Afghanistan was being ramped up everyone talked about how the poppy fields were going to get destroyed and that would make this massive dent on heroin abuse. Yeah ... that didn't happen.

    Additionally, I'm not sure why people keep attributing the best intentions to Trump's actions. He sure keeps proving why he doesn't deserve them.

    He wants to topple Madura because he wants to do something and god forbid someone pay attention to further evidence he and rapey Epstein had a shared interest in youth.

    Mexican cartel and China are main culprits behind the accessibility of fentanyl. There is also a legit medical need for the drug and if you talk to someone in emergency medicine they could explain that.

    Trump does irrational and reckless things everyday. This is a big one.
    Medical fentanyl is manufactured by legitimate drug companies in the US. Stopping the flow of illicit fentanyl shouldn’t affect medical fentanyl’s availability.

    Not sure if you were alluding to that, but you’ve mentioned it a couple of times.

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    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
      I had lunch today with four people from Columbia. Topic of Venezuela came up and they all said it’s absurd to think that there are a lot of drugs coming from Venezuela. They said they have so much oil there, why would they waste their time with drugs? I then joked and said “yeah no kidding, everyone knows all the drugs come from Columbia!“. Nervous laughter.
      Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post

      Well, for Columbia it’s mostly cocaine. ...
      Who knew the Ivy League was so fraught with drugs?

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      • Originally posted by PaloAltoCougar View Post



        Who knew the Ivy League was so fraught with drugs?
        lol

        Knew a guy who was married to a woman from Colombia. He never missed the opportunity to set folks straight.
        Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

        For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

        Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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        • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
          It may not be in keeping with meme culture, but maybe hold off on calling posts you don't agree with dumb.
          Nah, your rebuke is also dumb.

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          • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
            I had lunch today with four people from Columbia. Topic of Venezuela came up and they all said it’s absurd to think that there are a lot of drugs coming from Venezuela. They said they have so much oil there, why would they waste their time with drugs? I then joked and said “yeah no kidding, everyone knows all the drugs come from Columbia!“. Nervous laughter.

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            • Originally posted by chrisrenrut View Post

              Well, for Columbia it’s mostly cocaine. Fentanyl and heroin are mostly from Mexico.
              "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
              "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
              "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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              • Originally posted by Shaka View Post

                According to Fetttermen, who has been briefed, we are aware of what's on those boats. You feel free to think they are fishing boats. I know a lot about boats and I don't think they are fishing boats.
                Never said they were fishing boats, and I don't think they are. I've seen the boats too. I am also familiar with boats. Pretty sure they aren't drug boats either.

                Regardless, if its drugs on the boats, it seems EXTREMELY EASY to prove that and put this all to bed. And they won't. I can't think of too many reasons that would be.
                Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                Dig your own grave, and save!

                "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post

                  I mean, that seems pretty obvious? Maybe that was your point.
                  Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                  Dig your own grave, and save!

                  "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                  "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                  GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                  • Originally posted by falafel View Post

                    Never said they were fishing boats, and I don't think they are. I've seen the boats too. I am also familiar with boats. Pretty sure they aren't drug boats either.

                    Regardless, if its drugs on the boats, it seems EXTREMELY EASY to prove that and put this all to bed. And they won't. I can't think of too many reasons that would be.
                    What do you think those boats are doing. No rod holders, blue containers full of drugs or fuel, hidden holds for smuggling.

                    I'll let Fetterman argue my point. Evidently he's been in the briefings and is convinced they are smuggling drugs. Go to 3:40

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                    • Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                      I had lunch today with four people from Columbia. Topic of Venezuela came up and they all said it’s absurd to think that there are a lot of drugs coming from Venezuela. They said they have so much oil there, why would they waste their time with drugs? I then joked and said “yeah no kidding, everyone knows all the drugs come from Columbia!“. Nervous laughter.

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                      • Originally posted by Shaka View Post

                        What do you think those boats are doing. No rod holders, blue containers full of drugs or fuel, hidden holds for smuggling.

                        I'll let Fetterman argue my point. Evidently he's been in the briefings and is convinced they are smuggling drugs. Go to 3:40
                        I will watch your video. But even before I do that, both of us know there is NO WAY those boats are traveling the open seas from Venezuela to the U.S. There's no dangling rock out in the middle of the ocean (or at LP ).

                        I don't want to hear what the boats are NOT. I want to hear what the boats ARE. So far, NO ONE has come forth with any credible evidence that these boats are running drugs to the United States of America.

                        Again, it seems like it should be pretty easy to prove. Yet, we aren't even interdicting these boats, we're just blowing them up. Even if they WERE drug boats (which no one can credibly confirm), blowing people up in the middle of the ocean for being in a boat with drugs that cannot reach the U.S. seems like straight murder. Yes, murder of drug dealers (again, if proven, which it hasn't been). But I am not aware of any law in the U.S. that says its okay to commit murder as long as it is a drug dealer.

                        Based on your prior comments, you are probably okay with murdering people in the open seas without due process. I am definitely not. If that's where our disagreement ends, that's fine.
                        Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                        Dig your own grave, and save!

                        "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                        "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • So this just showed up in my account tonight.

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                          Late this morning at our yearly holiday party, a bunch of the people in my department were talking about this bonus. They turned to me and said, "Chief, you're the only one here who will even qualify for this bonus." I felt a little awkward. I didn't mention the Colonel would get it as well. He and I are the only two employees on active duty orders in our department of about 80 people. Most of the federal technicians are also part-time soldiers. Since the bonus was paid as a housing allowance, probably so it could be tax free, only soldiers on orders a month or longer qualify for it.

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                          • Originally posted by Shaka View Post

                            What do you think those boats are doing. No rod holders, blue containers full of drugs or fuel, hidden holds for smuggling.

                            I'll let Fetterman argue my point. Evidently he's been in the briefings and is convinced they are smuggling drugs. Go to 3:40
                            Okay I watched it.

                            Fetterman's comments can be summed as
                            • "we're just bombing every random boat" (I don't think anyone has claimed that)
                            • "we know what is on the boats" (ok so tell us)
                            • "we have intelligence about what's on the boats" (ok so TELL US!)
                            Did I miss anything? I don't think I did.

                            Fetterman is no better than the administration. Essentially, the government, including Fetterman, are telling us "we know what we are doing". Fine. But you work for the people tell the PEOPLE you work for what you are doing. At this point, I can't believe there are any Americans who thing "I'll bet this government is following the law and everything is above board.

                            Again, if it is legal, provide the justification. Stop hiding behind this classification nonsense. If were so classified, why do you keep posting it all over twitter? Because you want to brag about blowing up a defenseless boat from 30,000 feet.

                            I wonder what the cost to the taxpayers each strike represents. Is this the most cost-effective way to do this? Or is it just cool to blow up pleasure boats in the ocean with million dollar missles?
                            Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.

                            Dig your own grave, and save!

                            "The only one of us who is so significant that Jeff owes us something simply because he decided to grace us with his presence is falafel." -- All-American

                            "I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally

                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • Originally posted by falafel View Post

                              Okay I watched it.

                              Fetterman's comments can be summed as
                              • "we're just bombing every random boat" (I don't think anyone has claimed that)
                              • "we know what is on the boats" (ok so tell us)
                              • "we have intelligence about what's on the boats" (ok so TELL US!)
                              Did I miss anything? I don't think I did.

                              Fetterman is no better than the administration. Essentially, the government, including Fetterman, are telling us "we know what we are doing". Fine. But you work for the people tell the PEOPLE you work for what you are doing. At this point, I can't believe there are any Americans who thing "I'll bet this government is following the law and everything is above board.

                              Again, if it is legal, provide the justification. Stop hiding behind this classification nonsense. If were so classified, why do you keep posting it all over twitter? Because you want to brag about blowing up a defenseless boat from 30,000 feet.

                              I wonder what the cost to the taxpayers each strike represents. Is this the most cost-effective way to do this? Or is it just cool to blow up pleasure boats in the ocean with million dollar missles?
                              Maybe.. JUST maybe.. There is a reason they are not providing the full details for a reason. But knowing this guy is not one to shy from things he does not agree with, I tend to believe this interview says a lot that he is OK with it.

                              As for the law. This isn’t American law. It is against a state labels a certain way which makes it legal. Even if you do not like this, you need to stop sayin it is illegal. Different rules apply in this situation.

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                              • Originally posted by dabrockster View Post

                                Maybe.. JUST maybe.. There is a reason they are not providing the full details for a reason. But knowing this guy is not one to shy from things he does not agree with, I tend to believe this interview says a lot that he is OK with it.

                                As for the law. This isn’t American law. It is against a state labels a certain way which makes it legal. Even if you do not like this, you need to stop sayin it is illegal. Different rules apply in this situation.
                                It's illegal.

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