SCOTUS

[BigPiney]

[LIST=1]

[*]What is alarming for me about the CNN story is the subterfuge employed to record the justices.

Yep, I don't like that.

1. Based on the answers, the justices are not Christian Nationalists. Their wives on the other hand ...

Lots of crazy wives of justices it seems. They are nuts.

[All-American]

Lots of crazy wives. They are nuts.

FIFY

[frank ryan]

Can't the guy have his own personal opinions? This wasn't an official statement but was instead an expression of his personal beliefs (which I don't think rise to the level of Christian nationalist). I bet we'd be just as shocked if we heard what Sotomayor or Kagan say in private conversations.

Also, don't forget about the huge bombshell from Roberts:



I mean, talk about a quote worthy of being in an article

I appreciated what Roberts said. What Alito said is concerning. It goes without saying people can have their own opinions but in the context of Alito, he has merited some scrutiny. He and wife's story about the flags were invalidated. I encourage to see an interview with that neighbor if you haven't checked it out.

[MartyFunkhouser]

The Alitos and Roberts discuss politically sensitive topics in secret recordings by liberal activist

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/11/polit...rts/index.html

I hate this type of pretending to be someone while secretly recording bullshit. It is the same stuff that Project Veritas does. It is morally reprehensible.

[falafel]

I hate this type of pretending to be someone while secretly recording bullshit. It is the same stuff that Project Veritas does. It is morally reprehensible.

Agreed. How much of Alito's responses could be idle conversation, small talk, general but not firm agreement with something the fake person said. I'm not saying he's not a very conservative Justice, but I don't think the recordings can be used to nail down any particular beliefs or opinions he holds.

[All-American]

I hate this type of pretending to be someone while secretly recording bullshit. It is the same stuff that Project Veritas does. It is morally reprehensible.

Seriously. Super sleazy.

[Moliere]

When the opinions he has affects millions of people maybe we should be concerned? I love that you think that the opinions of Roberts and Alito are just fine, but then speculate on the opinions of Sotomayor and Kagan.

You see, this is the problem. We used to not care about the justices personal opinions because presidents mostly nominated competent judges that were not recommended by some "think tank". We could rely on those judges to apply the law without bias. Now we have people that clearly make their legal judgments based on the personal opinions. Not how it was designed.

I don't necessarily agree with his opinions so I'm not saying they are fine....I'm saying he's fine to have his opinions. Whether or not they work their way into his legal opinions is another/different topic. I'm sure they do influence how he views the law, just like the other eight justices.

If you think the liberal justices are blind to their own opinions and judge the law based solely on technical readings of the written law, then I have a bridge to sell you.

[Moliere]

I appreciated what Roberts said. What Alito said is concerning. It goes without saying people can have their own opinions but in the context of Alito, he has merited some scrutiny. He and wife's story about the flags were invalidated. I encourage to see an interview with that neighbor if you haven't checked it out.

I don't care what Alito's wife does or doesn't do. She's not on the SCOTUS. The guy has personal opinions that line up with about 50% of older white males. I'm not sure anything is wrong with that even if I don't agree with his opinions. Just because he has a different life experience than you, that doesn't invalidate his own opinions nor does it negate his ability to be an effective and competent justice.

[originalsocal]

I don't necessarily agree with his opinions so I'm not saying they are fine....I'm saying he's fine to have his opinions. Whether or not they work their way into his legal opinions is another/different topic. I'm sure they do influence how he views the law, just like the other eight justices.

If you think the liberal justices are blind to their own opinions and judge the law based solely on technical readings of the written law, then I have a bridge to sell you.

I don’t think that, which I was saying in the first place. The politics of the court is the problem. And judges that public ally express their political opinions are not effective. Judges allowing their political point of view to influence their positions should not be in traffic court, let alone the Supreme Court. Justice is blind right?

When Alito openly talks about his politics it undermines his credibility, making the opinion of the Court dubious, and legal findings appear subjective. He should know that. I prefer judges that are not predictable because of who nominated. They at least show me they are not driven by politics, but the rule of law.

Also, right wing conservatives are lame!

[USUC]

I don’t think that, which I was saying in the first place. The politics of the court is the problem. And judges that public ally express their political opinions are not effective. Judges allowing their political point of view to influence their positions should not be in traffic court, let alone the Supreme Court. Justice is blind right?

When Alito openly talks about his politics it undermines his credibility, making the opinion of the Court dubious, and legal findings appear subjective. He should know that. I prefer judges that are not predictable because of who nominated. They at least show me they are not driven by politics, but the rule of law.

Also, right wing conservatives are lame!

Do... do you think the 3 liberal justices don't talk about politics or that their legal opinions aren't based on subjective progressive philosophy?

[Moliere]

I don’t think that, which I was saying in the first place. The politics of the court is the problem. And judges that public ally express their political opinions are not effective. Judges allowing their political point of view to influence their positions should not be in traffic court, let alone the Supreme Court. Justice is blind right?

When Alito openly talks about his politics it undermines his credibility, making the opinion of the Court dubious, and legal findings appear subjective. He should know that. I prefer judges that are not predictable because of who nominated. They at least show me they are not driven by politics, but the rule of law.

Also, right wing conservatives are lame!

It was a private conversation. I’m not seeing him openly discuss his politics in public. Im not saying he hasn’t, I just don’t get the uproar over this whole thing.

[frank ryan]

I don't care what Alito's wife does or doesn't do. She's not on the SCOTUS. The guy has personal opinions that line up with about 50% of older white males. I'm not sure anything is wrong with that even if I don't agree with his opinions. Just because he has a different life experience than you, that doesn't invalidate his own opinions nor does it negate his ability to be an effective and competent justice.

The opinions of a justice's wife do matter. More Roberts, less Thomas and Alito.

[frank ryan]

A Catholic believes in Catholicism?

Christian Nationalism isn't Catholicism. It's a gross political ideology that coopts the label of Christianity in the name power. The concern isn't that he is Catholic.

[USUC]

Christian Nationalism isn't Catholicism. It's a gross political ideology that coopts the label of Christianity in the name power. The concern isn't that he is Catholic.

And you believe that Alito, based on his own words, is a christian nationalist and not just a run of the mill devout Christian? I think you are filling in a lot of blanks to get there.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Christian nationalism is quite the bogeyman these days.