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    • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
      The ruling on the loan forgiveness plan is the first step to Trump winning the presidency (well, if he doesn't go to jail first ). Woke young'uns like my daughter are very cool to Biden without his forgiveness program, so they may just sit this next election out. Step two is Biden having either a health scare or embarrassing media moment so the independents sit out.
      I'm not sure I follow the logic...but then again Millenials aren't really known for being logical. They won't vote for Biden because his plan to forgive student loans got overturned by a conservative majority at the SCOTUS? Bernie's plan would be overturned as well as would Warren. Odd they would stay home and not vote for Biden when he didn what they wanted but that pesky Constitution got in the way of his dictatorship desires.

      Our country is built on the backs of law and contracts. These students signed a contract that said they'd get money for an education but they had to pay that money back. There is no deception in that contract as it's a written contract that they have access to and can read the terms and conditions.

      You borrow money, you pay it back one way or the other.
      "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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      • Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
        The ruling on the loan forgiveness plan is the first step to Trump winning the presidency (well, if he doesn't go to jail first ). Woke young'uns like my daughter are very cool to Biden without his forgiveness program, so they may just sit this next election out. Step two is Biden having either a health scare or embarrassing media moment so the independents sit out.
        Are you saying this hasn't happened yet?

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        • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

          I'm not sure I follow the logic...but then again Millenials aren't really known for being logical. They won't vote for Biden because his plan to forgive student loans got overturned by a conservative majority at the SCOTUS? Bernie's plan would be overturned as well as would Warren. Odd they would stay home and not vote for Biden when he didn what they wanted but that pesky Constitution got in the way of his dictatorship desires.

          Our country is built on the backs of law and contracts. These students signed a contract that said they'd get money for an education but they had to pay that money back. There is no deception in that contract as it's a written contract that they have access to and can read the terms and conditions.

          You borrow money, you pay it back one way or the other.
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          • Originally posted by Pelado View Post

            Is that a parody account?
            Confirmed.

            "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
            "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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            • Originally posted by Clark Addison View Post

              Are you saying this hasn't happened yet?

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              • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                I'm not sure I follow the logic...but then again Millenials aren't really known for being logical. They won't vote for Biden because his plan to forgive student loans got overturned by a conservative majority at the SCOTUS? Bernie's plan would be overturned as well as would Warren. Odd they would stay home and not vote for Biden when he didn what they wanted but that pesky Constitution got in the way of his dictatorship desires.

                Our country is built on the backs of law and contracts. These students signed a contract that said they'd get money for an education but they had to pay that money back. There is no deception in that contract as it's a written contract that they have access to and can read the terms and conditions.

                You borrow money, you pay it back one way or the other.
                Unless you are a too big to fail business or a giant corporation or some other powerful entity. Then, there can be forgiveness.

                We have bankruptcy to relieve debt when people can't pay even if they have read and agreed to various contracts.

                Calling Biden dictatorial for this is an overreach. Are you still considering DeSantis? He is more accurately dictatorial.

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                • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                  Unless you are a too big to fail business or a giant corporation or some other powerful entity. Then, there can be forgiveness.

                  We have bankruptcy to relieve debt when people can't pay even if they have read and agreed to various contracts.

                  Calling Biden dictatorial for this is an overreach. Are you still considering DeSantis? He is more accurately dictatorial.
                  Yeah, I didn't get the dictator comparison. It doesn't seem like something a dictator would do.

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                  • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post

                    Unless you are a too big to fail business or a giant corporation or some other powerful entity. Then, there can be forgiveness.

                    We have bankruptcy to relieve debt when people can't pay even if they have read and agreed to various contracts.

                    Calling Biden dictatorial for this is an overreach. Are you still considering DeSantis? He is more accurately dictatorial.
                    I know plenty of very large businesses that went bankrupt. The liberal talking points on this just don’t strike a chord with working class people. There’s no reason that small usines owners or tradespeople should be bailing out college students. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if Biden really cares about helping low in me people through debt forgiveness he’s cancel credit card debt and/or small business loans.
                    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                    • Originally posted by frank ryan View Post
                      Unless you are a too big to fail business or a giant corporation or some other powerful entity. Then, there can be forgiveness.

                      We have bankruptcy to relieve debt when people can't pay even if they have read and agreed to various contracts.

                      Calling Biden dictatorial for this is an overreach. Are you still considering DeSantis? He is more accurately dictatorial.
                      Speaking of bankruptcy and student debt, that is an area that should be addressed. Student debt should be dischargeable through bankruptcy.

                      As far as the 2B2F businesses, I was no fan of the bailouts that happened under Bush (and continued under Obama), but my understanding is that all of that money got paid back plus interest - not just forgiven. Please correct me if I am mistaken.
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                      • Originally posted by Bo Diddley View Post

                        Yeah, I didn't get the dictator comparison. It doesn't seem like something a dictator would do.
                        It’s a bad analogy but Biden is clearly usurping legislative power through his actions in this regard.
                        "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                        • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                          It’s a bad analogy but Biden is clearly usurping legislative power through his actions in this regard.
                          Without question.

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                          • Originally posted by Pelado View Post

                            Speaking of bankruptcy and student debt, that is an area that should be addressed. Student debt should be dischargeable through bankruptcy.

                            As far as the 2B2F businesses, I was no fan of the bailouts that happened under Bush (and continued under Obama), but my understanding is that all of that money got paid back plus interest - not just forgiven. Please correct me if I am mistaken.
                            Yes, in fact the government made a profit on the payback from TARP with interest charged.

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                            • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                              I'm not sure I follow the logic...but then again Millenials aren't really known for being logical. They won't vote for Biden because his plan to forgive student loans got overturned by a conservative majority at the SCOTUS? Bernie's plan would be overturned as well as would Warren. Odd they would stay home and not vote for Biden when he didn what they wanted but that pesky Constitution got in the way of his dictatorship desires.

                              Our country is built on the backs of law and contracts. These students signed a contract that said they'd get money for an education but they had to pay that money back. There is no deception in that contract as it's a written contract that they have access to and can read the terms and conditions.

                              You borrow money, you pay it back one way or the other.
                              Okay, but who is the contract with? The student, sure, and his/her parents possibly, but who is the creditor?

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                              • Originally posted by Moliere View Post

                                I know plenty of very large businesses that went bankrupt. The liberal talking points on this just don’t strike a chord with working class people. There’s no reason that small usines owners or tradespeople should be bailing out college students. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, if Biden really cares about helping low in me people through debt forgiveness he’s cancel credit card debt and/or small business loans.
                                Big businesses are allowed to discharge debt through bankruptcy, you can't do that with student loan debt. That's a double standard.

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