Ukraine - somebody explain to me

[frank ryan]

I wonder if, after yesterday's meeting, Rubio and/or Vance called Zelensky and said (would be true for either of them), "I spent years criticizing Trump for the narcissistic blowhard that he is. But when I realized the only way I could get ahead was to suck up to him, I changed my tune and I got what I wanted. True, he continues to say I kissed his ass, but frankly he's right and it was worth it to get what I wanted. Ass-kissing is far more important to him than any principle. So pucker up, Vlad."

That would take courage and honor. You don't have those things when you fall in line with Trump. You might have access to power and influence, but you don't have both.

[BlueK]

Like Trump is surprised? Dumbass.

President Donald Trump on Friday threatened new sanctions on Russia, including on its banking sector, in response to Moscow’s continued bombardment of Ukraine — a significant warning as he seeks to end the conflict.

The new threat was notable after weeks of conciliatory statements toward Russia and its President Vladimir Putin, including saying he was open to lifting sanctions.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...0x3b6mnhon281t

[frank ryan]

Like Trump is surprised? Dumbass.

President Donald Trump on Friday threatened new sanctions on Russia, including on its banking sector, in response to Moscow’s continued bombardment of Ukraine — a significant warning as he seeks to end the conflict.

The new threat was notable after weeks of conciliatory statements toward Russia and its President Vladimir Putin, including saying he was open to lifting sanctions.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...0x3b6mnhon281t

We get off intelligence sharing with Ukraine. Even if we were to resume they would be smart to hold back.

Nations that buy arms from will probably reconsider because Trump might randomly withdraw cooperation.

I think Trump is probably blowing smoke on this one

[The_Tick]

We get off intelligence sharing with Ukraine. Even if we were to resume they would be smart to hold back.

Nations that buy arms from will probably reconsider because Trump might randomly withdraw cooperation.

I think Trump is probably blowing smoke on this one

What if he isn't though? Would you be willing to concede you may be wrong on this topic?

[BlueK]

What if he isn't though? Would you be willing to concede you may be wrong on this topic?

Trump is being played by Putin like a fiddle. Anyone can at least see that.

[Maximus]

What if he isn't though? Would you be willing to concede you may be wrong on this topic?

Wrong on what? He already stopped Ukraine aid and intelligence

[frank ryan]

What if he isn't though? Would you be willing to concede you may be wrong on this topic?

If Trump wakes up and suddenly reserves course on Russia I'll acknowledge the change but no I'm not wrong in my perception of his servility to Russia thus far.

Look at his actions to date? What he has done to Ukraine is awful and embarrassing for our country.

He and JD Vance were awkward and absurd than they tried to humiliate the leader of an ally on an international stage. Trump spews mistruths about the conflict anytime he opens his mouth.

He negotiated with Russia, without Ukraine. Why do you think Trump deserves the benefit of the doubt when it comes to Ukraine?


Tick, we voted with Russia, and refused to condemn the Russian invasion. You know who joined us on that vote? Not a list of the globes best countries:

Israel, Haiti, Hungary, Palau and the Marshall Islands; the African countries Burkina Faso, Burundi, the Central African Republic, Equatorial Guinea, Niger and Sudan; and Belarus, North Korea, Syria, Eritrea, Mali and Nicaragua


Israel has had an awkward relationship of convenience with Putin for awhile, to their shame. Hungary is run by a corrupt Putin puppet. This is not a good luck.

[frank ryan]

Hegseth paused cyber operations against Russia. We are incredibly dumb.

[Maximus]

Hundreds of Ukrainians died over the last few days as a direct result of stopping us intelligence

russia waited for the change and then did a major offensive

Hmm. Traitor at this point

[frank ryan]

Hundreds of Ukrainians died over the last few days as a direct result of stopping us intelligence

russia waited for the change and then did a major offensive

Hmm. Traitor at this point

Trump doesn't care about peoples' lives.

[Maximus]

so trump turned off intelligence so russia could gain some ground before negotiations. hm


so will russia accept this 30 day proposal? the envoy is going to moscow, I assume they wouldnt be going if they thought theres no chance

[BlueK]

Trump doesn't like Ukraine and wants to help Russia. How is that even debateable?

[BlueK]

so trump turned off intelligence so russia could gain some ground before negotiations. hm


so will russia accept this 30 day proposal? the envoy is going to moscow, I assume they wouldnt be going if they thought theres no chance

Russia will accept and then break it

[wuapinmon]

This is the most violent, awful, saddening video I've ever seen, worse than the cartel and ISIS videos and even worse than the castration video from early in the war. It's first-person camera footage of a knife fight to the death between an AFU and a Russian soldier. The Russian wins after about 5 minutes of stabbing and biting and screaming and cursing. At the end, the Ukrainian says he's dying and to please just let him die in peace, telling the Russian he was the better warrior. They say goodbye to one another even. It only reaffirms my opposition to war.

Imagine the knife fight from Saving Private Ryan with a LOT of blood. WARNING: If you are a combat veteran do not watch this! If you are sensitive to such things, don't either.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...russian_and_a/

[Bo Diddley]

Good holy @#$%. 34 people killed and 117 injured in a Palm Sunday attack on the Sumy city center.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g4262x4x1o