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This is a very well written article that is probably the most accurate and balanced that I've seen on the internet: http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/16/living...gle/index.html
While dozens of LGBT Mormon advocacy organizations have arisen with the advent of the internet, the church has been careful not to sanction any of these grassroots movements. And for devout members like Fisher, seeking answers from outside sources is often deemed subversive.
According to his public search history, Fisher sought answers to his questions from the church. He never ventured into the large repository of anti-Mormon blogs and forums. Instead, he visited the church's website and typed the word "seek" into the scriptural search bar. He navigated to the page for Matthew 7:7: "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock and it shall be opened unto you."
But Fisher found few resources for gay Mormons in official church publications."Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf
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Utah Valley hates gay people...
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...r44-story.htmlUtah Republican loses reelection bid, 1 year after coming out as gay
A Republican politician in Utah has lost his bid for reelection,14 months after coming out as gay.
Utah County Commissioner Nathan Ivie lost last week’s primary to former Marine Lt. Col. Tom Sakievich by a 20-point margin — a result he “absolutely” attributes to his sexuality.
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WTF Utah Valley?"If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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I voted for him. I had no idea that he was gay before I voted for him. Didn't hear a peep about it. The biggest issue that people had with him was his support for the badly needed 60% tax increase.Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostUtah Valley hates gay people...
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...r44-story.html
WTF Utah Valley?
https://www.heraldextra.com/news/loc...19b583b62.html
Of course we now bring in the guy who will continue to grow the county's deficit and make the situation even worse.
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Oh no! My relative.Originally posted by Uncle Ted View PostUtah Valley hates gay people...
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...r44-story.html
WTF Utah Valley?Ain't it like most people, I'm no different. We love to talk on things we don't know about.
Dig your own grave, and save!
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"I know that you are one of the cool and 'edgy' BYU fans" -- Wally
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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Did not hear a single word about his sexual orientation during the past few months, but I heard a lot about financial mismanagement in the county for the last two years. But OK, let's pretend it was about that.Originally posted by beefytee View PostI voted for him. I had no idea that he was gay before I voted for him. Didn't hear a peep about it. The biggest issue that people had with him was his support for the badly needed 60% tax increase.
https://www.heraldextra.com/news/loc...19b583b62.html
Of course we now bring in the guy who will continue to grow the county's deficit and make the situation even worse.
"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
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Ha! I can tell you're being sarcastic.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostDid not hear a single word about his sexual orientation during the past few months, but I heard a lot about financial mismanagement in the county for the last two years. But OK, let's pretend it was about that.
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67% tax increase last year. They were going to go with a 100% increase, but backed down. Philosophically, I don't mind the tax hike that much, but it appears that the county budget was horribly mismanaged for several years prior.Originally posted by YOhio View PostHa! I can tell you're being sarcastic."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Since you don't mind the tax hike that much they should just go with 200% increase each year until they get that mismanagement problem taken care of. Then they could level it off.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post67% tax increase last year. They were going to go with a 100% increase, but backed down. Philosophically, I don't mind the tax hike that much, but it appears that the county budget was horribly mismanaged for several years prior."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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The problem lies with the anti-tax voters IMO. I hate national and state taxes as much as anyone, but I find local ones much more palatable. Too many Utah voters reflexively vote against any increase regardless of merit. What happened with the school bonds across the state last November was awful.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post67% tax increase last year. They were going to go with a 100% increase, but backed down. Philosophically, I don't mind the tax hike that much, but it appears that the county budget was horribly mismanaged for several years prior.
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