Same-sex marriage coming to Utah

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  • Katy Lied
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 9435

    #1681
    Seriously, I really think that polygamy needs to have several characteristics to maintain a male dominated society.

    1. There can only be polygamy, not polyandry.
    2. There needs to be an ultimate authority (political, religious, etc) that can and will allocate the scarce resource (the women) from man to man
    3. The women in the society need to be seriously repressed, cut off, and kept away from modern society.

    If you look at LDS history, as well as fundamentalist life as it currently is, and Islam, you find that all 3 of these conditions are met.

    In a modern incarnation of polygamy as would be found legal in the US, all 3 conditions do not hold. Thus a different outcome may occur.

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    • TripletDaddy
      sweet triple
      • Nov 2008
      • 58186

      #1682
      what is all this talk about polygamy and trophy wives??? what pics are you looking at?
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      • Color Me Badd Fan
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 12519

        #1683
        I read this column a month or so ago, and I appreciated its points. http://theweek.com/articles/550748/s...iage-gets-ugly

        The earliest poll I can find on gay marriage is from 1996. 68% of the country was against and 27% in favor according to the Gallup poll.

        While I personally have no objection to gay marriage and support the Supreme Court's ruling, I'm also decidely against the bullying of the remaining 40% of the country that still opposes gay marriage.

        Especially coming from some Johnny Come Lately supporter who was fresh off the mish in 1996 and attending BYU and who I can guarantee was not on board with gay marriage at the point along with 70% of the country.
        Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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        • TripletDaddy
          sweet triple
          • Nov 2008
          • 58186

          #1684
          Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
          I read this column a month or so ago, and I appreciated its points. http://theweek.com/articles/550748/s...iage-gets-ugly

          The earliest poll I can find on gay marriage is from 1996. 68% of the country was against and 27% in favor according to the Gallup poll.

          While I personally have no objection to gay marriage and support the Supreme Court's ruling, I'm also decidely against the bullying of the remaining 40% of the country that still opposes gay marriage.

          Especially coming from some Johnny Come Lately supporter who was fresh off the mish in 1996 and attending BYU and who I can guarantee was not on board with gay marriage at the point along with 70% of the country.
          What was the date when you decided to not object to gay marriage? How long have you held that position?
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          • YOhio
            Hipster Mode
            • Nov 2008
            • 26165

            #1685
            Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
            Especially coming from some Johnny Come Lately supporter who was fresh off the mish in 1996 and attending BYU and who I can guarantee was not on board with gay marriage at the point along with 70% of the country.
            Lots of gay marriage supporters are looking for a Johnny Come Lately.

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            • frank ryan
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 12260

              #1686
              Originally posted by YOhio View Post
              Lots of gay marriage supporters are looking for a Johnny Come Lately.

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              • Jeff Lebowski
                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                • Nov 2008
                • 69444

                #1687
                Whoops. Need to do a little better job vetting those photos.

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                • SCcoug
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 7625

                  #1688

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                  • Moliere
                    One man.....one pie
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 27789

                    #1689
                    Originally posted by SCcoug View Post
                    Sometimes the church gives me whiplash
                    "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                    • Uncle Ted
                      The Big 12 money shot.
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 28853

                      #1690
                      It's about marriage equality?

                      Polygamous Montana trio applies for wedding license

                      A Montana man said Wednesday that he was inspired by last week's U.S. Supreme Court decision legalizing gay marriage to apply for a marriage license so that he can legally wed his second wife.

                      Nathan Collier and his wives Victoria and Christine applied at the Yellowstone County Courthouse in Billings on Tuesday in an attempt to legitimize their polygamous marriage. Montana, like all 50 states, outlaws bigamy — holding multiple marriage licenses — but Collier said he plans to sue if the application is denied.


                      "It's about marriage equality," Collier told The Associated Press Wednesday. "You can't have this without polygamy."


                      County clerk officials initially denied Collier's application, then said they would consult with the county attorney's office before giving him a final answer, Collier said.


                      Yellowstone County chief civil litigator Kevin Gillen said he is reviewing Montana's bigamy laws and expected to send a formal response to Collier by next week.
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                      What if he likes one wife more than the other?
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                      • Uncle Ted
                        The Big 12 money shot.
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 28853

                        #1691
                        Originally posted by Moliere View Post
                        Sometimes the church gives me whiplash
                        Given that a good percentage of the homeless LGBT youth are/were mormon this makes sense. Maybe the church could just tell parents to stop kicking their LGBT kids out of the house.
                        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                        • Nakoma
                          Junior Member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 571

                          #1692
                          Shouldn't polyamorous families be entitled to the state-sanctioned legitimacy same-sex couples enjoy thanks to SCOTUS?

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                          • Uncle Ted
                            The Big 12 money shot.
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 28853

                            #1693
                            Originally posted by Commando View Post
                            Anecdotal- I have a cousin involved in a polygamist marriage. Not a mormon-style one, either, btw. More of a super hippie arrangement. Her husband posted "Today We Celebrate the Right to Love Anyone We Want. Tomorrow, We Shall Fight for the Right to Love More than One!" The vibe is out there- let's kick this marriage shit into overdrive! :rockon2:
                            Originally posted by Nakoma View Post
                            Shouldn't polyamorous families be entitled to the state-sanctioned legitimacy same-sex couples enjoy thanks to SCOTUS?

                            http://blog.sfgate.com/sfmoms/2015/0...oms-and-a-dad/

                            Wait... is this Commando's cousin?

                            Last edited by Uncle Ted; 07-02-2015, 07:08 AM.
                            "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
                            "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
                            "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
                            GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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                            • Commando
                              Explosivo
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 20748

                              #1694
                              Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                              Wait... is this Commando's cousin?
                              No that's more flower child hippie. They're more new-age-sacred-geometry hippie. Very similar vibe, though except these two girls look nice and not like porn stars.
                              "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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                              • Jeff Lebowski
                                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 69444

                                #1695
                                Looks like the fearmongerers were right all along. Man marries his dog:



                                And the bride slips him the tongue.
                                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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