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  • Jarid in Cedar
    CS Institutional Memory
    • Jun 2009
    • 13234

    #46
    Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
    It's where Utah gets their coaches and university presidents.
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    "The first thing I learned upon becoming a head coach after fifteen years as an assistant was the enormous difference between making a suggestion and making a decision."

    "They talk about the economy this year. Hey, my hairline is in recession, my waistline is in inflation. Altogether, I'm in a depression."

    "I like to bike. I could beat Lance Armstrong, only because he couldn't pass me if he was behind me."

    -Rick Majerus

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    • dabrockster
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 10934

      #47
      Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
      And in shocking news, other sides to the story are starting to surface



      This is a former swimmer from the 2006-2010 teams. The only logical conclusion that can be drawn is that he is lying, as is the father of the primary antagonist. Reality falls somewhere between.
      Ummm... I'm not sure that interview helps the case or the "other side"..

      He admits he never was contact during the time he was there but they state a substantial amount of the swimmers were questioned.. Admits a swimmer did blackout and was attended too as if it was no big deal. He didn't seem to be the best interview..

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      • The_Douger
        Athletic Supporter
        • Jun 2012
        • 5413

        #48
        Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
        You are not a very good troll. But I agree that it means the U doesn't give a rats ass for what other people think
        Why do you think it's a good idea to have people investigate wrongdoing at the school who graduated from and likely love said school? Do they donate at all to the school? Is there a conflict of interests?

        I'm sure they're capable of doing a fine job, but it sure gives the appearance of impropriety.

        I don't think it would be that difficult to find someone who didn't attend the University of Utah who is a lawyer and can investigate this. Whether or not you agree with who they chose, can't you see that it could appear badly that they've chosen their own alumni to perform this investigation?
        Will donate kidney for B12 membership.

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        • myboynoah
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 21719

          #49
          Aside from the investigation, why can't the good doctor tell us now what he knew and when he knew it? That doesn't seem too much to ask. When did he first become aware of the issues with the swimming coach? What did he do about it? This has all gotten a bit too lawyerly, as if people are hiding something and playing for time.

          Maybe scratch could reach beyond his obsession with BYU scheduling and FOIA some records to try to answer these questions.
          Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

          For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

          Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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          • smokymountainrain
            Impressive Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 22593

            #50
            Originally posted by myboynoah View Post
            Maybe scratch could reach beyond his obsession with BYU scheduling and FOIA some records to try to answer these questions.
            :chuckle:
            I'm like LeBron James.
            -mpfunk

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            • Blueintheface
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 15382

              #51
              At the risk of drawing fire from JIC I have to wonder what Larry Scott is thinking of his decision now. This has not been the greatest entrance for either Colorado or Utah.
              "Either evolution or intelligent design can account for the athlete, but neither can account for the sports fan." - Robert Brault

              "Once I seen the trades go down and the other guys signed elsewhere," he said, "I knew it was my time now." - Derrick Favors

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              • LA Ute
                Receiver of Memory
                • Nov 2008
                • 19512

                #52
                Originally posted by The_Douger View Post
                They say they are having an external group look in to it, however that group is led by 2 all star attorney's that graduated from, you guessed it, the University of Utah.
                Michael S. Glazier:

                Education

                John Marshall Law School (J.D., 1979)
                Indiana University (B.S., 1975)
                Alan L. Sullivan

                University of Utah (J.D., 1974)

                Education

                Executive Board, Utah Law Review
                Order of the Coif

                Columbia College (B.A., with honors, 1969)
                “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                ― W.H. Auden


                "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                • kccougar
                  9262
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 7020

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
                  And in shocking news, other sides to the story are starting to surface



                  This is a former swimmer from the 2006-2010 teams. The only logical conclusion that can be drawn is that he is lying, as is the father of the primary antagonist. Reality falls somewhere between.
                  I'm putting as much stock in this interview as I do in this former swimmer's post:

                  http://www.cougarboard.com/board/mes...ml?id=10270497
                  "It's devastating, because we lost to a team that's not even in the Pac-12. To lose to Utah State is horrible." - John White IV

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                  • kccougar
                    9262
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 7020

                    #54
                    Originally posted by LA Ute View Post
                    Michael Glazier: Specializes in defending universities in NCAA compliance cases.

                    Alan Sullivan: U of U alumni Board of Trustees as recently as 2011.


                    Personally, I don't think either of the two is necessarily wrong to include on an independent investigative team, but you would think the U could have tried a little harder.
                    "It's devastating, because we lost to a team that's not even in the Pac-12. To lose to Utah State is horrible." - John White IV

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                    • LA Ute
                      Receiver of Memory
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 19512

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Jarid in Cedar View Post
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                      Don't forget:

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                      “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                      ― W.H. Auden


                      "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                      -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                      "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                      --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                      • SeattleUte
                        Faith crisis consultant
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 20837

                        #56
                        This story appears to have no legs except on BYU boards.
                        When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.

                        --Jonathan Swift

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                        • CJF
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 8497

                          #57
                          Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                          This story appears to have no legs except on BYU boards.
                          I honestly hope that is the case.
                          A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. - Mohammad Ali

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                          • cougjunkie
                            *Banned*
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 23223

                            #58
                            Originally posted by SeattleUte View Post
                            This story appears to have no legs except on BYU boards.
                            and Yahoo Sports.
                            *Banned*

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                            • LA Ute
                              Receiver of Memory
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 19512

                              #59
                              Originally posted by kccougar View Post
                              Michael Glazier: Specializes in defending universities in NCAA compliance cases.

                              Alan Sullivan: U of U alumni Board of Trustees as recently as 2011.

                              Personally, I don't think either of the two is necessarily wrong to include on an independent investigative team, but you would think the U could have tried a little harder.
                              I don't see any way Sullivan will lead the investigation. He's surely just the local guy -- admitted to the bar in Utah, understands the local culture, etc. When I handle something in another state I want a local guy too. Yes, Sullivan got his J.D. at Utah and has ties to the U., so I can see what you are saying. Keep in mind that Sullivan's considerable reputation is on the line and he has to get this right. The other guy isn't an alum and has an even bigger reputation to protect. Besides, I'll bet the final product will be lengthy and detailed, and any whitewash would be easy to expose. I suppose some people will regard the final report with suspicion because one of the lead lawyers went to the U., but such people will find something wrong with the report anyway.
                              “There is a great deal of difference in believing something still, and believing it again.”
                              ― W.H. Auden


                              "God made the angels to show His splendour - as He made animals for innocence and plants for their simplicity. But men and women He made to serve Him wittily, in the tangle of their minds."
                              -- Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons


                              "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye."
                              --Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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                              • myboynoah
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 21719

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Blueintheface View Post
                                At the risk of drawing fire from JIC I have to wonder what Larry Scott is thinking of his decision now. This has not been the greatest entrance for either Colorado or Utah.
                                I doubt he cares.
                                Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

                                For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

                                Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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