The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

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  • imanihonjin
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 3772

    #8821
    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
    When Hillary was responding to the "cyber" question, I was thinking to myself, "Oh my, he is going to crush her here with the e-mail server thing. What a perfect setup for him." Then he completely whiffed and gave that horrible rambling response that was so bad it is all over social media today. WTH does his 10-yr-old son have to do with anything?
    I felt the same. I thought he delivered a nice zinger about releasing his tax returns when she released her 33,000 emails. She went on a diatribe about her thoughts as to why he wouldn't want to release these things and what he must be hiding. In my mind I was thinking "she is digging herself in a whole because everything she is saying is equally, if not more, applicable to her missing emails, and then in his rebuttal he completely focused on defending what may or may not be in his tax returns (he spent a stupid amount of time on whether or not he was over leveraged) instead of redirecting the focus on her emails, which was the whole point of the zinger to begin with.

    His main goal should have been to make her squirm, and he was terrible at it last night.

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    • Uncle Ted
      The Big 12 money shot.
      • Apr 2010
      • 28853

      #8822
      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
      When Hillary was responding to the "cyber" question, I was thinking to myself, "Oh my, he is going to crush her here with the e-mail server thing. What a perfect setup for him." Then he completely whiffed and gave that horrible rambling response that was so bad it is all over social media today. WTH does his 10-yr-old son have to do with anything?
      I think he was implying that his 10-yr-old son weighs 400 pounds and hacked the DNCs emails.
      "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
      "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
      "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
      GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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      • Jeff Lebowski
        Corporate lackey for Jesus
        • Nov 2008
        • 69506

        #8823
        Originally posted by dabrockster View Post
        It safe.. I promise.. [emoji48]
        Not going to take a chance. Too risky!
        "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
        "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
        "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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        • byu71
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 22070

          #8824
          Due to my full schedule I was unable to schedule time to watch the debate.

          I am glad I can watch CNN, MSNBC and read on this board how things went. Trump got clobbered by Hillary When Romney clobbered Pres. Obama, he got a 4 pt jump in the polls. It will be interesting to see the pop Hillary gets.

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          • old_gregg
            scaly man fish
            • Nov 2009
            • 16915

            #8825
            Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
            I think he was implying that his 10-yr-old son weighs 400 pounds and hacked the DNCs emails.
            the 400 lb line was a great one
            Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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            • myboynoah
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 21719

              #8826
              Originally posted by imanihonjin View Post
              However, she is god awful at delivering punches. WTF, was that bit about...."Donald, I think you just accused me of preparing for this debate and you know what I will also prepare to be president of the United States." It was a canned response that was just stupid given the context and then her drones in the audience clap and cheer after a really really awkward comment. Just bizarre.
              Ha, so true. There was another time later on in the debate where she delivered a zinger (can't remember the content, but I thought it quite good) but then walked all over the punch line, mumbling and bumbling as it was lost into the nothingness of the room.
              Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!!

              For all this His anger is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.

              Not long ago an obituary appeared in the Salt Lake Tribune that said the recently departed had "died doing what he enjoyed most—watching BYU lose."

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              • Soccermom
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 4063

                #8827
                Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
                Yeah, my vote wasn't changed from one idiot to the other. In fact, my vote hasn't changed from the beginning. #FeelTheJohnson I just caught part of the debate because I was wondering how the twitter streaming thing was going to work. It was kind cool watching the debate and seeing all the dumb comments people were making about it realtime. The networks need to put up tweets in realtime as well before people finally stop paying the cable bill. Of course, maybe it is too late.
                After how poorly Trump did last night, I wonder if Republicans were wishing they had advocated to get the Johnson into the debate. Of course, Trump probably would have just talked over him too.

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                • taekwondave
                  Junior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 1160

                  #8828
                  Originally posted by Soccermom View Post
                  After how poorly Trump did last night, I wonder if Republicans were wishing they had advocated to get the Johnson into the debate. Of course, Trump probably would have just talked over him too.
                  He was tweeting. Here was my favorite: "Criminal justice reform begins with ending the #WarOnDrugs. @HillaryClinton has been on the wrong side of this issue. #debates"

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                  • BlueK
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 7153

                    #8829
                    Originally posted by Soccermom View Post
                    After how poorly Trump did last night, I wonder if Republicans were wishing they had advocated to get the Johnson into the debate. Of course, Trump probably would have just talked over him too.
                    I think he would have made both look bad which would have muddled the race even more.

                    Last edited by BlueK; 09-27-2016, 09:03 AM.

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                    • Color Me Badd Fan
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 12519

                      #8830
                      I watched about 5-10 minutes. Trump's handlers probably told him to try to act semi-congenial and that lasted for around 5 minutes, then he went full Trump. He was categorically awful.

                      Hillary looked surprisingly healthy and of course she was prepared. I know it has been said a couple dozen times already and Trump somehow keeps coming back, but last night probably sealed the deal in favor of Hillary.
                      Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                      • San Juan Sun
                        Kicked to the curb
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 9214

                        #8831
                        Originally posted by Soccermom View Post
                        Are these debates going to matter? Will they change many minds regardless how well one of the candidates may do as opposed to the other? Or will they just sell lots of popcorn?
                        That's really the question. Did the debate change any Trump voter to Clinton, and vice versa? I doubt it.
                        "Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."

                        - Ty Cobb

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                        • byu71
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 22070

                          #8832
                          Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
                          That's really the question. Did the debate change any Trump voter to Clinton, and vice versa? I doubt it.
                          Based on what I am hearing on this board and what I heard on CNN and MSNBC I am expecting Clinton to get a bump. Mainly because Trump voters won't change, Independents maybe a little and I suspect a larger number of democrats who may have been on the fence are with her now.

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                          • Maximus
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 6011

                            #8833
                            Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                            I watched about 5-10 minutes. Trump's handlers probably told him to try to act semi-congenial and that lasted for around 5 minutes, then he went full Trump. He was categorically awful.

                            Hillary looked surprisingly healthy and of course she was prepared. I know it has been said a couple dozen times already and Trump somehow keeps coming back, but last night probably sealed the deal in favor of Hillary.
                            Unless trump somehow wins the next 2. but since he refuses to even prep for the debates I imagine they will go the same way and clinton wins by a comfortable margin.

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                            • BlueK
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 7153

                              #8834
                              Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
                              That's really the question. Did the debate change any Trump voter to Clinton, and vice versa? I doubt it.
                              that's not what debates ever do.

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                              • Color Me Badd Fan
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 12519

                                #8835
                                Originally posted by San Juan Sun View Post
                                That's really the question. Did the debate change any Trump voter to Clinton, and vice versa? I doubt it.
                                Some on the fence Trump voters simply won't vote. It's not about switching to Hillary, it's getting the motivation to vote for Trump at all. The guy's a complete disaster.
                                Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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