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  • #2401
    Just curious as to why everyone wouldn't list Bernie as the worst. Not worst person, but worst President. Is it you just don't think he would be able to get his policies through?

    What lousy choices. I have been a Kasich supporter all along.

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    • #2402
      Kasich would be an excellent president. His biggest flaw is that he says stupid shit all the time and can be a dick, but I don't care about that. He was the House budget chair last time we had a budget surplus and he was working with a Dem president. He's been an excellent governor in Ohio. But he has been somewhat complimentary of Obamacare so the crazies ignore multiple decades of good representation and governance.

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      • #2403
        Originally posted by byu71 View Post
        Just curious as to why everyone wouldn't list Bernie as the worst. Not worst person, but worst President. Is it you just don't think he would be able to get his policies through?

        What lousy choices. I have been a Kasich supporter all along.
        I think bernie has been pragmatic as a senator and would be a pragmatic president. And I dont think hed get us into wars we dont need to be in

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        • #2404
          Originally posted by YOhio View Post
          Kasich would be an excellent president. His biggest flaw is that he says stupid shit all the time and can be a dick, but I don't care about that. He was the House budget chair last time we had a budget surplus and he was working with a Dem president. He's been an excellent governor in Ohio. But he has been somewhat complimentary of Obamacare so the crazies ignore multiple decades of good representation and governance.
          He also has business experience. He has been successful as a Congressman, private businessman and governor. He is not extreme enough to win a primary or get a lot of pub out of the press. He is another candidate that the evangelicals and so called "conservatives" like Hannity and Limbaugh would not go out and vote for and let Hillary win. I don't get those folks. Well I do Hannity and Limbaugh. If Hillary wins they end up with higher ratings than if a solid moderate-conservative republican becomes President.

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          • #2405
            Originally posted by YOhio View Post
            Kasich would be an excellent president. His biggest flaw is that he says stupid shit all the time and can be a dick, but I don't care about that. He was the House budget chair last time we had a budget surplus and he was working with a Dem president. He's been an excellent governor in Ohio. But he has been somewhat complimentary of Obamacare so the crazies ignore multiple decades of good representation and governance.
            I would feel good about voting for Kasich and fear that whomever I end up voting for in the general, will be something I do with nose pinched. Kasich has not been spectacular in the primaries, but this primary for the GOP has been truly one for the ages, not in a good way. All of the GOP has forgotten Reagan's eleventh commandment, namely, thou shall not speak evil of a fellow Republican. The primaries have made an easy job even easier.
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            • #2406
              Best to worst:

              1. Cruz
              2. Bernie
              3. Trump
              4. Hillary

              Hillary did an incredibly poor job as Secretary of State. Electing her would also send the message that a certain class of people are above the law. She should at least receive the Petraeus treatment. Also the Clinton Foundation seems to represent the pinnacle of graft.

              Trump would just be embarassing.

              Bernie would be the doddering old man that can't get anything passed. I also don't think he has the Obama like will to shove things through administrative agencies. All in all we'd probably be fine with one Bernie term.

              I read something about Cruz being one the FTC commissioners 10-15 years ago and from what was written about it, he did an excellent job. He had some foresight to get a some important things done that would prove prescient in the following years. I also think that Cruz isn't as nutty conservative as he lets on, he's in on the joke. He's very calculating and knows how to read the tea leaves.
              Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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              • #2407
                Hillary worse than Trump. That's funny.
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                • #2408
                  Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  Hillary worse than Trump. That's funny.
                  I'm like LeBron James.
                  -mpfunk

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                  • #2409
                    Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                    Hillary worse than Trump. That's funny.
                    I'm not too emotionally invested in this argument, but Hillary is definitely worse than Trump. Either way I bet Mike Waters dad will be using his hiking boots in the next four years.

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                    • #2410
                      Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                      Hillary worse than Trump. That's funny.
                      Hillary could be indicted for a felony, not funny.

                      Trump filing for multiple bankruptcies is also not funny, but he's never been indicted for a felony.
                      Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                      • #2411
                        Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                        Hillary could be indicted for a felony, not funny.

                        Trump filing for multiple bankruptcies is also not funny, but he's never been indicted for a felony.
                        Trump's hair should be a felony.
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                        • #2412
                          Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                          Hillary could be indicted for a felony, not funny.

                          Trump filing for multiple bankruptcies is also not funny, but he's never been indicted for a felony.
                          she should be. turns out much of the stuff was either marked top secret or should have been. seems like outrage over that has died down a bit, but man that shows some pretty bad judgment.
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                          • #2413
                            Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                            she should be. turns out much of the stuff was either marked top secret or should have been. seems like outrage over that has died down a bit, but man that shows some pretty bad judgment.
                            Some of the stuff was uber top secret. Like intelligence showing our satellite surveillance capabilities and also our drone program.

                            And the only safeguard she put in place on her server was a remote desktop connection.
                            Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                            • #2414
                              Originally posted by Color Me Badd Fan View Post
                              Hillary could be indicted for a felony, not funny.

                              Trump filing for multiple bankruptcies is also not funny, but he's never been indicted for a felony.
                              Trump filing for bankruptcies is probably the least crazy, least scary thing about him. God help us if he is elected.
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                              • #2415
                                Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                                she should be. turns out much of the stuff was either marked top secret or should have been. seems like outrage over that has died down a bit, but man that shows some pretty bad judgment.
                                not just bad judgment, but consistently selfish bad judgment. The only thing she cares about is herself. Nothing else matters. Not national security, not families of those killed in service ot the government, nothing at all. To her, it is so important to win that all else falls away. So if she wants to keep ultra top secret information on her home PC she will, because her importance transcends every other consideration. I think she would be the type of leader that might look pretty good for a couple of years or so, but her leadership would be rotten at the core and would, in the long run, hurt us as a nation more than we would ever guess at the time.

                                By comparison, Trump is a buffoon, and he is also and egomaniac, but he is open about his limitations and I do think he would work with people and rely on others for help. To the extent he causes problems for us it would be open and obvious at the time. I can not stand Trump, to be honest, but I prefer him to Hillary.
                                PLesa excuse the tpyos.

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