The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

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  • Uncle Ted
    The Big 12 money shot.
    • Apr 2010
    • 28853

    #631
    Originally posted by Northwestcoug View Post
    #SenatorsDontMakeGoodPresidents
    #TedIsANarcissist
    #TedIsDivisive
    #TedOnlyAppealsToTheVeryFarRight
    #CantBeatHillary

    So says of of the more obsessed Mitt fans from my FB feed.

    And by the way, Mitt is just waiting for the opportune time to enter the race.

    #UntilMittEndorsesSomebody...NobodyButMitt!!!!
    Obama, RMoney, Cruz

    #YetAnotherExampleWhyHarvardIsOverRated

    Cruz is the GOP's version of Obama...

    Ted Cruz and Barack Obama have more in common than you think

    Ted Cruz doesn't get compared to President Obama all that often. But the senator's speech Monday at Liberty University announcing his 2016 presidential bid carried heavy echoes of the rhetoric and positioning that the current occupant of the White House used in the early days of his own national ambitions.


    Cruz dedicated the entire first half of his speech to a recitation of the stories of his parents' lives as well as to his formative years and those of his wife, Heidi.
    [...]

    But the first 900 words of Cruz's speech were dedicated to this detailed retelling of his origin story. That's more than most candidates will do and suggests that Cruz plans to lean heavily on his biography to not only distinguish him from the rest of the field but also to affirm the message that he represents real change and a future face of America.


    That's exactly the same thing Obama did during his own presidential campaigns. His background functions as a proof point on just how different he was than the rest of the people running. He not only sounded different; he was different.


    Same sh*t, different party.
    "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
    "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
    "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
    GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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    • byu71
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 22070

      #632
      Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
      Obama, RMoney, Cruz

      #YetAnotherExampleWhyHarvardIsOverRated

      Cruz is the GOP's version of Obama...




      Same sh*t, different party.
      Yep and why I mourn the fact the extreme and fringe elements have captured the electoral process in the parties.

      I will say though I think the republicans have done a better job of countering these folks. The tea party wasn't so influential in the mid term win. Obama was probably the most influential in getting republicans elected.

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      • Uncle Ted
        The Big 12 money shot.
        • Apr 2010
        • 28853

        #633
        LOL... http://www.tedcruz.com
        "If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
        "I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
        "Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
        GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!

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        • Pelado
          Bald not naked
          • Sep 2010
          • 21092

          #634
          Originally posted by Uncle Ted View Post
          That's pretty funny.
          "I think it was King Benjamin who said 'you sorry ass shitbags who have no skills that the market values also have an obligation to have the attitude that if one day you do in fact win the PowerBall Lottery that you will then impart of your substance to those without.'"
          - Goatnapper'96

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          • UVACoug
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 2685

            #635
            Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
            cruz is allegedly much smarter than he acts. how does the gop not realize how harmful candidates pandering to teabaggers is?
            I keep reading about how smart he is, but I have yet to see any evidence of it. The more I learn of him, the more looney he seems.

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            • pellegrino
              miserere me
              • Jan 2009
              • 12100

              #636
              Originally posted by UVACoug View Post
              I keep reading about how smart he is, but I have yet to see any evidence of it. The more I learn of him, the more looney he seems.
              It's calculated looniness. Crazy though it may be, he has a very well thought out political agenda that should be taken very seriously. Anyone who just dismisses him as a crazy teabagger is the fool.
              Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
              God forgives many things for an act of mercy
              Alessandro Manzoni

              Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

              pelagius

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              • Jeff Lebowski
                Corporate lackey for Jesus
                • Nov 2008
                • 69482

                #637
                Originally posted by pellegrino View Post
                It's calculated looniness. Crazy though it may be, he has a very well thought out political agenda that should be taken very seriously. Anyone who just dismisses him as a crazy teabagger is the fool.
                Dang it. I am a fool.
                "There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
                "It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
                "Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster

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                • pellegrino
                  miserere me
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 12100

                  #638
                  Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View Post
                  Dang it. I am a fool.
                  we all knew that.
                  Dio perdona tante cose per un’opera di misericordia
                  God forgives many things for an act of mercy
                  Alessandro Manzoni

                  Knock it off. This board has enough problems without a dose of middle-age lechery.

                  pelagius

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                  • TripletDaddy
                    sweet triple
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 58186

                    #639
                    this election is going to be lame
                    Fitter. Happier. More Productive.

                    sigpic

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                    • woot
                      Resident Science Cop
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 5531

                      #640
                      His credentials being what they are, I guess it's possible Cruz's ignorant positions are all political calculations rather than the result of stupidity, but why then did he decide on a platform far to the right of any other recent Republican candidate? He's not even close to electable so unless he's being employed by the RNC to act as foil to a preferred candidate, his positions don't seem well considered.

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                      • old_gregg
                        scaly man fish
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 16915

                        #641
                        Originally posted by woot View Post
                        His credentials being what they are, I guess it's possible Cruz's ignorant positions are all political calculations rather than the result of stupidity, but why then did he decide on a platform far to the right of any other recent Republican candidate? He's not even close to electable so unless he's being employed by the RNC to act as foil to a preferred candidate, his positions don't seem well considered.
                        he's got to get the nomination before worrying about electability in the general election, which might explain why he does dumb stuff. i also think you're giving way too much credit to the conservative electorate if you think he's not electable even now.
                        Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                        • Moliere
                          One man.....one pie
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 27803

                          #642
                          Originally posted by TripletDaddy View Post
                          this election is going to be lame
                          The general will be lame. The republican primary is going to be entertaining.
                          "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                          • Omaha 680
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 11171

                            #643
                            Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                            he's got to get the nomination before worrying about electability in the general election, which might explain why he does dumb stuff. i also think you're giving way too much credit to the conservative electorate if you think he's not electable even now.
                            When is the last time the Republicans nominated a far right presidential candidate? GWB? I think you have to go back to Goldwater.

                            For all the handwringing on about the influence of the far right in the party, they have recently settled on people like McCain. The Democrats have their loons in the primary, too.

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                            • woot
                              Resident Science Cop
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 5531

                              #644
                              Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
                              he's got to get the nomination before worrying about electability in the general election, which might explain why he does dumb stuff. i also think you're giving way too much credit to the conservative electorate if you think he's not electable even now.
                              Perhaps I am being too optimistic, but nobody close to this conservative has ever been a serious contender for the Republican nomination, even ignoring general electability.

                              This is why I can't believe that his positions are manufactured; unless the Republican electorate has taken a huge jump to the right in the last 1-3 years, any success he has will have been made more difficult, not less, by his falsely-held positions.

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                              • SCcoug
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 7625

                                #645
                                Can anyone who has paid closer attention than I have summarize Cruz's loony political positions? Outside of being a weird looking Canadian, having smarmy mannerisms and having a reputation for being a right-wing nut-job I don't know anything about him. Wasn't he in on the government shutdown?

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