The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck

[Northwestcoug]

Very few Kasich or Cruz voters would go to Trump. Trump is attracting a completely different kind of voter and he doesn't exactly fit anywhere on the traditional liberal-conservative scale. But you're right that many Kasich voters wouldn't want to vote for Cruz either. Another myth about Kasich is that he's a "moderate." He's a conservative. He's probably more conservative than Reagan was. He's just not a wacko right wingnut conservative.

Um, no:

In a head-to-head matchup between Trump and Cruz — with Kasich voters re-allocated to their second choices — the Manhattan real-estate mogul earned 46 percent support, compared with 37 percent for Cruz and 12 percent undecided...With Cruz supporters shifting to their second choices, Trump would have a large lead. Fifty-six percent said they would vote for Trump, with just 25 percent opting for Kasich and 13 percent undecided.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...-kasich-221111

Republican voters are realizing their party's fate. Even if Trump doesn't win the nomination outright, it will take a huge movement to deny him a win in a contested convention. The diehards are and will value party loyalty. The never Trump movement will not convince enough delegates to fracture the party.

[jay santos]

Bernie picked up 85% of the vote in Utah county. Wow.

I was fascinated seeing the split between Bernie and Hillary in Utah, about 80-20. What's so different about Democrats in Utah compared to rest of the country? First inclination is to wonder if there's some sexism there? Or the moral repugnancy of Bill Clinton lingers?

[Omaha 680]

I was fascinated seeing the split between Bernie and Hillary in Utah, about 80-20. What's so different about Democrats in Utah compared to rest of the country? First inclination is to wonder if there's some sexism there? Or the moral repugnancy of Bill Clinton lingers?

Utah county has two large universities and young people are dumb?

[jay santos]

Utah county has two large universities and young people are dumb?

Lebowski's comment was for Utah county, mine was for all of Utah.

[BlueK]

Way to go Utah, allowing votes to come in until 12 freaking 30 am ET so no one in the country knows Trump just got trounced there.

[Omaha 680]

Lebowski's comment was for Utah county, mine was for all of Utah.

Edit: This illustrates BlueK's point. I went to bed and had no idea how the Utah vote turned out.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Damon Linker hacking McKay Coppins.

http://theweek.com/articles/614206/gop-needs-more-mormons

The GOP needs more Mormons

[smokymountainrain]

Utah county has two large universities and young people are dumb?

young people are dumb because they don't want to vote for Hillary?

[Uncle Ted]

Hooray for Utah! Proud of my state.

Bernie picked up 85% of the vote in Utah county. Wow.

I knew y'all would "feel the bern" rather than vote for that old hag.

[Omaha 680]

young people are dumb because they don't want to vote for Hillary?

Young people are dumb because they believe any of Bernie's ideas are workable in a world where math exists. Old people are dumb because they believe Hillary at all. Better?

[Joe Public]

Bernie picked up 85% of the vote in Utah county. Wow.

Hillary got the other three votes, I take it?

[Jeff Lebowski]

Hillary got the other three votes, I take it?

they had had so many people show up that they ran out of ballots.

[Joe Public]

they had had so many people show up that they ran out of ballots.

I saw footage of an SLC ballot outage on CNN. They also mentioned that they wouldn't be able to verify the supplemental ballots went to registered voters until later. I'm not sure how that works or why that was the case (verifying after instead of during the process).

[Uncle Ted]

I saw footage of an SLC ballot outage on CNN. They also mentioned that they wouldn't be able to verify the supplemental ballots went to registered voters until later. I'm not sure how that works or why that was the case (verifying after instead of during the process).

Yeah, it seems that had a lot of people show up that weren't registered as Dems or didn't show up on the rolls. Therefore, they gave them a conditional ballot.

[New Mexican Disaster]

I don't know any Utah County dems who were not Bernie fans.