Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski
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The 2016 Presidential Election Trainwreck
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What are you talking about? This is a cost benefit analysis an only a cost benefit analysis. The magic switch is merely a factor of when does the benefit outweigh the cost.Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostWrong. Every person that does not vote has a negative impact on the process. Democracy works best when everyone is informed and participating. It is a continuum, not a black and white switch.
Again, your "back in the game" logic implies that there is some magical switch that is flipped where you go from smart-and-efficient-non-voter to fulfilling-my-civic-duty. Nonsense. It is a continuum. Your logic is based purely on self interest and laziness.
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Maybe you should put your absentee ballot on ebay and sell it to the highest bidder.Originally posted by San Juan Sun View PostI'm not planning on voting. It could be that I'm lazy, could be that I'm holding out for better offers."If there is one thing I am, it's always right." -Ted Nugent.
"I honestly believe saying someone is a smart lawyer is damning with faint praise. The smartest people become engineers and scientists." -SU.
"Yet I still see wisdom in that which Uncle Ted posts." -creek.
GIVE 'EM HELL, BRIGHAM!
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And again, if everyone applies the same cost-benefit analysis (the impact is the same for every voter), the system fails. Non-voters are dedending upon (and leeching off) the efforts of voters. I am surprised that you are such a staunch defender of freeloading.Originally posted by imanihonjin View PostWhat are you talking about? This is a cost benefit analysis an only a cost benefit analysis. The magic switch is merely a factor of when does the benefit outweigh the cost."There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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I think we should move to a purely democratic society then to honor your belief in a pure democracy and how our whole system will fail unless we have democracy, dammit!Originally posted by Jeff Lebowski View PostAnd again, if everyone applies the same cost-benefit analysis (the impact is the same for every voter), the system fails. Non-voters are dedending upon (and leeching off) the efforts of voters. I am surprised that you are such a staunch defender of freeloading.
We could all get together ever other week or so to vote on such interesting things as speed limits and what kind of toilet paper should be bought for the local court house. We certainly don't want people free loading on the votes of others after all.
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You know you are out on a limb when you bust out the democracy vs. republic argument.
"There is no creature more arrogant than a self-righteous libertarian on the web, am I right? Those folks are just intolerable."
"It's no secret that the great American pastime is no longer baseball. Now it's sanctimony." -- Guy Periwinkle, The Nix.
"Juilliardk N I ibuprofen Hyu I U unhurt u" - creekster
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Ugh. The garbage can is all the way over there. I cannot be bothered to walk this Snickers wrapper that far. I think I'll just drop it.At least the Big Ten went after a big-time addition in Nebraska; the Pac-10 wanted a game so badly, it added Utah
-Berry Trammel, 12/3/10
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Let's make it as simple as possible.Originally posted by imanihonjin View PostI see, so there are some levels of freeloading that you find acceptable.
Supporting the established civic system =/= freeloading.
Relying on others to support the established civic system when you are given a civic duty == freeloading.
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I don't know if I'm a nicer person because of it, but I also went cold turkey on politics after the 2012 election. I used to be a huge junkie, watching the news all the time and listening to political talk radio. I don't pay attention to any of it anymore. It is amazing how little impact it has on your life when you aren't constantly paying attention to it. I'm pretty disenchanted with pretty much everyone in both parties.Originally posted by San Juan Sun View PostBest decision I ever made was to stop caring about politics. Once Dayton didn't come through in 2012, I stopped watching news, reading poltical Internet, listening to radio, etc. I think you'll all agree that I'm a much nicer person because of it.
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Yes, you are much nicer.Originally posted by UVACoug View PostI don't know if I'm a nicer person because of it, but I also went cold turkey on politics after the 2012 election. I used to be a huge junkie, watching the news all the time and listening to political talk radio. I don't pay attention to any of it anymore. It is amazing how little impact it has on your life when you aren't constantly paying attention to it. I'm pretty disenchanted with pretty much everyone in both parties."Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."
- Ty Cobb
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No Vagina Ute I am fat fingered and typing on a phone. You got a problem with that you mindless Democrat?"Guitar groups are on their way out, Mr Epstein."
Upon rejecting the Beatles, Dick Rowe told Brian Epstein of the January 1, 1962 audition for Decca, which signed Brian Poole and the Tremeloes instead.
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Does everyone see this? Into politics and not a very nice person.Originally posted by Topper View PostNo Vagina Ute I am fat fingered and typing on a phone. You got a problem with that you mindless Democrat?"Sure, I fought. I had to fight all my life just to survive. They were all against me. Tried every dirty trick to cut me down, but I beat the bastards and left them in the ditch."
- Ty Cobb
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