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  • The polls have tightened significantly for the Republican race in Iowa in the last week. RCP Average now only has Trump up 5 points with the latest two polls only showing him up 1 on Cruz and Rubio in striking distance. Remember, Iowa is weird. Santorum and Huckabee came out of nowhere to win it the last two cycles.

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    • Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
      The polls have tightened significantly for the Republican race in Iowa in the last week. RCP Average now only has Trump up 5 points with the latest two polls only showing him up 1 on Cruz and Rubio in striking distance. Remember, Iowa is weird. Santorum and Huckabee came out of nowhere to win it the last two cycles.
      The bad weather in Iowa tonight will hopefully keep the Trump bandwagoners home.

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      • It's funny how I've seen conservatives' opinions evolve on Trump (mostly by way of fb statuses/ opinions)-- seems like they're starting to see the wolf through the thin sheep's clothing. Of course most of those people just opt for Cruz, whose sheep's clothing is marginally thicker due to his record in Texas.
        "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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        • Originally posted by Commando View Post
          It's funny how I've seen conservatives' opinions evolve on Trump (mostly by way of fb statuses/ opinions)-- seems like they're starting to see the wolf through the thin sheep's clothing. Of course most of those people just opt for Cruz, whose sheep's clothing is marginally thicker due to his record in Texas.
          president cruz, wielder of cruise missiles and protector of the constitution, will be a great and venerable president.
          Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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          • Originally posted by old_gregg View Post
            president cruz, wielder of cruise missiles and protector of the constitution, will be a great and venerable president.
            I don't know if sand can glow in the dark, but WE'RE GONNA FIND OUT!!!
            "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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            • "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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              • Originally posted by BlueK View Post
                The bad weather in Iowa tonight will hopefully keep the Trump bandwagoners home.
                I agree let one of the joke candidates win like the previous 2 cycles that Omaha mentioned. Save the important ones for our hero!
                Get confident, stupid
                -landpoke

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                • Originally posted by Commando View Post
                  I don't know if sand can glow in the dark, but WE'RE GONNA FIND OUT!!!
                  ted of house cruz, first of his name, king of the andals and the first men, lord of the seven kingdoms, and protector of the realm, alone can save us from that hippie parasite bernie sanders.
                  Te Occidere Possunt Sed Te Edere Non Possunt Nefas Est.

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                  • I was kind of hoping that at some point Mike Lee was going to get booted from office. However, I see according to the last poll here in Utah, Cruz, Trump and Carson were in the lead.

                    I thought Utah was one of the more highly educated electorates??

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                    • Originally posted by HuskyFreeNorthwest View Post
                      I agree let one of the joke candidates win like the previous 2 cycles that Omaha mentioned. Save the important ones for our hero!
                      Yes. But in my scenario Cruz is the fake candidate. Then Kasich and/or Rubio begin to take over in NH.

                      Honestly though, Trump has been running on anger and momentum for months. If he get knocked down in Iowa what does he have left? Certainly nothing of substance. His numbers have already started to slide a bit and I think losing the first one out of the gate would puncture his campaign. I said it could be like Dean 2004 a while back and I still think that. Here's hoping it pans out tonight.

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                      • http://observer.com/2016/02/breaking...lives-at-risk/

                        It sounds like Hillary's email leak might have gotten some people killed (no concrete info regarding someone getting killed has been released, although I wonder if even then would put a stop to Hillary's ambition). The emails withheld last week at the request of the intelligence community included names of covert CIA people and foreigners working for our intelligence services.

                        Apparently there are also 30,000 emails that haven't been recovered because Hillary deleted them and the FBI hasn't been able to recover them.
                        Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                        • Originally posted by Omaha 680 View Post
                          Yes. But in my scenario Cruz is the fake candidate. Then Kasich and/or Rubio begin to take over in NH.

                          Honestly though, Trump has been running on anger and momentum for months. If he get knocked down in Iowa what does he have left? Certainly nothing of substance. His numbers have already started to slide a bit and I think losing the first one out of the gate would puncture his campaign. I said it could be like Dean 2004 a while back and I still think that. Here's hoping it pans out tonight.
                          Perhaps people start taking the process more seriously when voting time comes? Like the Iowa hillbillies who voted for Santorum and Huckabee in the last two cycles.

                          New Hampshire and then South Carolina are more accurate barometers than Iowa. A second place finish by Rubio could catapult him in New Hampshire.
                          Part of it is based on academic grounds. Among major conferences, the Pac-10 is the best academically, largely because of Stanford, Cal and UCLA. “Colorado is on a par with Oregon,” he said. “Utah isn’t even in the picture.”

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                          • A new defense for Team Hillary? Clinton didn't know how to access email from a computer.

                            http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...ter-state-dept

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                            • Originally posted by Nakoma View Post
                              A new defense for Team Hillary? Clinton didn't know how to access email from a computer.

                              http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...ter-state-dept


                              I bet Bernie knows how to access his gmail account from a computer and he's like 90 years old.
                              "Discipleship is not a spectator sport. We cannot expect to experience the blessing of faith by standing inactive on the sidelines any more than we can experience the benefits of health by sitting on a sofa watching sporting events on television and giving advice to the athletes. And yet for some, “spectator discipleship” is a preferred if not primary way of worshipping." -Pres. Uchtdorf

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                              • Originally posted by Nakoma View Post
                                A new defense for Team Hillary? Clinton didn't know how to access email from a computer.

                                http://thehill.com/policy/national-s...ter-state-dept
                                And she's running for president? GTFOH.
                                "I'm anti, can't no government handle a commando / Your man don't want it, Trump's a bitch! I'll make his whole brand go under,"

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